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Remove Arrows Colliding With Each Other

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Auburn, Jul 4, 2014.

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Should arrows be able to collide?

  1. Yes

    20 vote(s)
    60.6%
  2. No

    13 vote(s)
    39.4%
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  1. Auburn

    Auburn Prepare Yourself! Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Tester
    1. SharSharShar - [SHARK]

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    I'll be honest, I just don't like arrows colliding, especially when arrows can't collide with swords. And it's pretty damn annoying to have your bomb arrows blocked by another archer's arrow that he got lucky with.
     
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  2. bout

    bout Shark Slayer

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    Bobotype liked your post, it has to be a terrible idea.

    No, seriously, colliding arrows are neat and heap.
     
  3. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    No, don't remove it, and here's why.

    This is the silliest argument ever and should not have even been in your post. The devs put a lot of thought into arrow slashing, and it was removed for very good reason.

    I've probably fired 200+ bomb arrows in my entire career playing Archer, and I can say with complete confidence that less than 10 of those were blocked by other arrows. It doesn't happen nearly enough to make bomb arrows become less useful; I honestly can't understand why you would be complaining about it.
     
  4. bout

    bout Shark Slayer

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    Let's make opposite teams' players don't collide hurr durr.
     
  5. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    Yes.

    Let's remove every single chaotic aspect from the game that we have come to know and love.

    Seriously though, some people actually are good enough to purposely shoot other arrows out of the air. Once you learn the timing and start recognizing the speed patterns its easy.

    Its the same concept as shooting kegs off people's back or even players themselves, its just a different target.

    Its like playing sniper in tf2. Good snipers (such as myself) memorize each of the classes movement patterns, hit boxes, etc.

    Remove the ability to shoot other arrows out of the air removes yet another chaotic and sometimes actually skillful part of the game.
     
  6. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    > Shameless bragging
    > Implying he's good enough to block arrows as an Archer
     
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  7. -Crimson-

    -Crimson- Haxor

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    I agree with Nighthawks comment, arrow colliding is what makes archers more interesting,
    as in, I find it hilarious when you're shooting another archer and they're shooting back and you do no damage because the arrows keep colliding over and over. ::P:

    It's not even a problem at all, it's just something that the developers believe should happen,
    you're just really unlucky if this happens to you when you always seem to have bomb arrows, and/or you don't know how to counter what you're complaining about.
    A lot of the time when you 1v1 an archer (or see another archer that may collide arrows with), you'll eventually start charging at the same time, that's when you try and time your charge right when he's about to fire his/hers,
    that way you have more of a chance of getting him/her (or someone else you're focusing on) than his/hers arrow.

    Asking for arrow colliding to be removed just because you're unlucky isn't good enough IMO, not trying to be harsh with all this, but just thought I should reply and express what I feel
    over this situation.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2014
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  8. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    > Green texting stopped being funny awhile ago.

    > Flaming is counter productive to the thread, so please fuk uf m8

    Now. To actually talk about the thread for a change.

    I don't think this is a matter of luck at all. If you fire arrows at the same time as another archer, wait a second, then fire again. That way you dont both charge and fire at the same time all over again.

    As I said before, for the most part it is just a chaotic aspect of the game, meaning that it is random, not having to do with luck.

    And as I also said before, some skill is involved in it. I mean, waiting an extra second to fire your arrows at another archer is a skill. Not many players are smart enough to do that even.
     
  9. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Haxor Tester

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    Lol, Hell no.

    I use this to my advantage when taking out another archer. I often fire the same time as them to give myself a chance to get to cover; If it were removed, archer battles would be just straight up spam firing at each other rather than timing it either to block their arrows or hit the enemy.

    Although, I would like to see bomb arrows not be affected by regular arrows since they are so expensive and it is generally only luck based if another arrow hits it (since you're not actually firing at someone in a direct path which is the same for the other player).

    Just because slashing arrows was removed doesn't mean arrow collisions should be removed. Slashing was removed because Knights were/are already too OP, but arrow collisions doesn't do anything to balancing and only wrecks a great game mechanic.
     
  10. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    Apologies. I simply felt the need to express that I found one aspect of your post quite unnecessary (the bragging) and another part far-fetched - this part:

    I have played Archer for quite some time, and every time I ever blocked an arrow with my own arrows, it was almost entirely luck. IMO, the very prospect of having enough skill to first predict where an enemy is going to shoot, compensate for the distance, have your own shot charged preemptively, aim, and fire with perfect timing to hit a fast-moving object in midair is just ridiculous. If you want to convince me that you are fully capable of doing this reliably, please, send me an unedited video of a full match in which you play Archer.
     
  11. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    To be fair. Have you ever tried to purposefully shoot and knock out another's arrows?

    Because you did just say that the only times you have done it was by accident.
     
  12. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    I have. I miss most times.

    I feel like we're talking about different situations here, though. Are you talking arrows from a close range, or a long range? Because I've hit arrows coming straight at me from not far away before.
     
  13. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    Short range... :/

    Long range would be way too damn hard.
     
  14. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    And that is the root of the misunderstanding.
     
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  15. ShnitzelKiller

    ShnitzelKiller Haxor

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    It's pretty rare, but chaotic and disruptive since it is impossible to do on purpose (unless you have 0 ping and the reflexes of a freshly-molted cobra). Some people enjoy an element of unpredictability, since it's inherent to the buggy catastrophe that KAG has always been. So rather inject chaos into something as important as archer combat, why not replace it with a number of smaller mechanics whose composite pointlessness equals that of arrow collisions?
    1. When a blue and red head land in the same place on a wood block, a chicken has a 1/50 chance of spawning there.
    2. If a misplaced ballista falls and teamkills at least two members of distinct classes within one second of each other, it receives a health boost and gains a 10% resistance to damage from being upside-down.
    3. A fire arrow embedded in mossy stone will burn the moss off the stone while playing the flag capture sound backwards.
     
  16. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Haxor Tester

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    LOLOL YOU SO FUNNY, YOU CONTRIBUTE GREATLY TO THIS DEBATE LOLOLOL
     
  17. ShnitzelKiller

    ShnitzelKiller Haxor

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    What? Devs already removed arrow slash for pretty much the same reason.
     
  18. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Haxor Tester

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    No, they removed it because it was OP. Whereas arrows hitting one another takes timing and a little bit of luck and benefits no class since both archers can use it. It isn't glitchy and it isn't stupid.
     
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