Thx to MizukiAkane!

First time from the first day that i play,i have seen an admin in KAG,and he was tryng to do his job...
But i must admit that after tryng to kick real griefer,dude turned his story that i was doing shi* and almoust get kicked,second time today!
I left the server cause other guys started to support WINGER,who claimed i was griefing and i was knight all the time!You could just look at log and see that i didnt change classes.
Also as an admin,why didnt you change team and keep an eye on me and that other guy?
Asking people something will resolve nothing until you see it.Or if someone who you trust tells you that it was as it is!

This is a vote that griefers usualy do,as it seems that they are to lazy to write new one,they just CTRL + C the vote!

Vote failed: Kick HA1TER?

Reason: PLACING SPIKS AT TEAM STRUCTRES TEAM KILLIN HARASSMENT BAN F12 A TOTAL FAGGOT

Casted by: WINGEr

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Now same server,different vote
Casted by: TEARSOFGAYNESSS (votes 1/8)
[91669] Vote not found id 11
[91669] Vote sent for: Kick HA1TER?

Reason: PLACING SPIKES KILLING TEAM MEMBERS PURPOLSY
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same server again
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Casted by: oFFal (votes 4/8)
[91578] Created netobject: netid 7361 name egg
[91597] Vote started: Kick HA1TER?

Reason: PLACING SPIKES KILLING TEAM MEMBERS PURPOLSY
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I dont know why,but i am griefers target on every server...

Another server that i did got kicked
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asted by: DonnaSummers (votes 1/8)
[46459] Created netobject: netid 1290 name runner
[46501] Created netobject: netid 1291 name runner
[46574] Vote sent for: Kick [HA]HA1TER?

Reason: GREIFNG TEAM STRUCTRES SHOOTING CATAPULT AT OWN TEAM BASE TEAM KILLING A TOTAL FAGGOT
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So you can see,always same reasons...

What sould i do?I am just sick that people kick me cause of griefers,but when i vote,no one support me!

 

Yes, this happens a lot to me too, dunno why he is hunting me but changed my nick to 'lawman' for some time. That has seemed to help.

 

Now,when Muzai left he is back under name Siedge Bver and he is tryng to kick me!All votes against him are failed..

 

That was most likely my server because Mizuki is one of my admins, I'll let him know about this thread.

It is extremely hard to admin because the game has no friendly interface towards banning, etc. Instead of adding game play, I think kag needs more admin functionality.

 

Just seen this thread and it kinda annoyed me, considering I did actually keep tabs on you HA1TER, and as far as I can see, WINGER wasnt griefing.
Griefers ruin this game, and so I try to keep it clean, I dont abuse my power like some people do, I kick if I think there is a genuine case of griefing, or a necessity to do it, and only then.
Obviously, if you think I've mis-banned you you're quite within your rights to complain, but in this case, I had other people keeping a watch on you, people I can trust and so I think I'm right to have banned you.
If there really is a mistake, please do post but as NotoriousPyro said - it's incredibly difficult to monitor everything at once in this game at the moment, and I'm just doing the best with what I've got.

regarding those votekicks; I dont see a SINGLE votekick in this server, and when I do, it's genuine, if youre being kicked from every game, maybe consider the fact that you may ACTUALLY be doing anything wrong.
I cant judge obviously, but it seems like thats the case.

 

I think the main thing that this thread shows is that we need better logging and statistics on players, to make it easier for mods to figure out who's griefing. The nature of KAG (especially now that we have collapses) can make it very difficult. I was there when all of this happened (I think), and I can attest that it was extremely confusing -- the game needs to be able to assign blame for actions somehow.

 

I totally agree with this, my life is so hard when trying to keep an eye on things.
I'll get a report of a griefer, change teams to see if its true and witness some griefing, and just not be able to see who actually did it.

 

Well,i think this "if youre being kicked from every game, maybe consider the fact that you may ACTUALLY be doing anything wrong." not fair towards me,from you.
Votekicking someone out for no reason,and doing that whit same reason,from word to word from different people is not even litle suspicious and is not ruining the game?
Ok,i know the rule,never fight an Admin even if he is wrong,and i will not do that cause i will eat some sh** cause i love this game,but after a while i will get full of it,and i will need to unload at some point!
People keeping an eye on me cant say that i did anything wrong,i know that!
Always being at top whit kill numbers,carried flags etc. i just have no time to do random stuff to be a griefer.
I dont know why you considered to ban me,not even asking people what WINGER did after his friend told that i did something...I mean,atleast 5 people attacked and builded whit me,but they didnt say anything...Dont know what to say,but somehow i am insulted by your post,not because you should look at things objective,or cause you "I did actually keep tabs on you" but you dont know what i was doing.It is because your post seems like a "It is not my fault,he did it".
Griefers are griefers cause they want to be,some day,someone will need to be...
You dont need to post anything.Take this as you wish,but be carefull,whit words,you can play as you want,but you will be the only one who will see them as you wanted them to be!
Peace out,and keep an eye on real bastards!

 

Mizuki sent me a message and explained that you were griefing, that is enough evidence for me - Mizuki is a good friend and a well-known member of dopelives.

Your attitude towards people is quite appalling and immature.

 

As pyro said, he trusts me, and I in turn trust the people I was speaking to over Teamspeak.
Perhaps you should be in posession of all the facts before you accuse me of "not knowing the facts", one of the trusted people was on the same team as you, watching you and called that you were griefing.

Think I've justified myself enough,
Mizuki

 

Pyro please,dont talk about my attitude!This says enough to me:
NotoriousPyro wrote:

Maybe you should leave the hosting to us professionals, not exactly hard to create a shell script with a do-while loop to keep the server up.
Being a bit above us normal people?Are we not good enough to host for atleast 12 people,or what?How do you know what i have?
I was never a griefer,and i think people can see that.
Mizuki or anyone else never warned me about anything...And you never posted here what did i do,but you acuse me to be a griefer!
Really professional!
And you should check to who you trust cause it seems that someone is not really honest!
What i see here,is just a bunch of people tryng to fight whit someone who just sayd what the thinks...I never said anything against Mizuki in first post!I just said he was there,doing his job and i asked why he didnt do what i think that would be good to check for real griefers.
Also,are you sure it was me and not a griefer whit my nick?