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Tunneling and the Emotional Conflicts it Creates

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by finleymars, Apr 24, 2015.

  1. finleymars

    finleymars Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni

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    The CTF round is going well, each team is pushing enough that it's a stalemate, but simultaneously quite fun. A double bomb jump can just about get you over the enemy wall and although you are killed soon after, the experience of stomp slashing a few people is fun. You keep repeating the same steps, always getting just enough gold for two bombs. Two bombs is all you need to keep the fun going.

    Then. You see it. Pixel by pixel sliding its way down the map, getting ever closer to the flag that will end this game if captured. :blue:

    A tunnel.

    TunnelingInCtf.png



    Switching to builder in a situation like this brings you away from your two bomb fun, but it must be done. For the good of the future.

    You finally dig down to the tunnel, realizing too late your complete and utter lack of knightpower.

    They have a drill it seems. The whirring hurts your ears as it digs into your flesh.

    The wielder of the contraption howls with joy. You are dead before you see his name, but the killfeed displays his victory.

    JiggyBlue.png :rekt:

    In conclusion, back yo self the fuk up or @rymcd will rek U.:flex:
     
  2. Verzuvius

    Verzuvius Shark Slayer

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    Knights are fun, builders are necessary and archers are... useless?
     
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  3. Anonymuse

    Anonymuse Arsonist

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    >tunneling
    >ISHYGDDT
     
  4. PUNK123

    PUNK123 Hella wRangler Staff Alumni Tester

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    shitty synergay thread god forbid they keep their shitposting on their clan page
     
  5. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    If you've ever switched to Knight after playing Archer and sucked really badly (like I have) you'd realize that Archers can actually be pretty terrifying.
    Also, I and plenty of others have fun playing Archer so watch where you're flinging that opinion of yours. :rollseyes:

    NOW, to bring my attention to the thread: tunneling has been discussed many, many times on the forums. The opinion is split (evenly, I'm not sure); people who play Builder feel like tunneling is one of the few ways that Builders are actually useful offensively, while others believe it is game-killing cancer that needs to stop.
    The issues are thus:
    - People don't agree entirely on this (duh).
    - There's no easy, intuitive way to remove tunneling even if we decided it should be removed.
    - Tunneling can be (somewhat) prevented already through the use of bedrock in maps.

    The result? It's probably not gonna change.
     
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  6. Verzuvius

    Verzuvius Shark Slayer

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    This will be fixed, I promise you. Our finest craftsman, @Fuzzle, will fix so that some of the custom maps don't have as deep dirt layers. He thought that it would reduce the amount of lag but it will probably also reduce the tunneling as well. Thank you, Fuzz.
     
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  7. TheDirtySwine

    TheDirtySwine Bison Rider Staff Alumni Donator

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    I wouldn't have a problem with tunneling if it was closer to the surface. It's literally the same of entombing just a little less skillful. Tunneling to me sounds like builders need a buff. Builders are a pain in the ass to play. It's more of a chore than it is fun. They need to be more destructive and more spammy imo. I feel like the mod that rayne, verra, and skinney were working on had a great buff it's just too bad they have irl things that are preventing them from developing the mod further
     
  8. Psiklaw

    Psiklaw Bison Rider

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    ITT: People who love stalemates bitching about people who use tunnels because they are better builders.

    Stalemates fucking suck, that "oh its fun and equilibrated like a perfect buddha fatass rolling like a hamster in the wheel of life" is a total lie, u know it sucks to be 40 minutes in a match where everyone is just killing themselves without any ground claiming just because there's no builders.

    I'm not a lover of tunnels but the drama in kag is too high to discuss wether its okay or not to do it for fucks sake play the game and stop the endless internet abuse
     
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  9. Colargolator

    Colargolator Horde Gibber
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    @Psiklaw for president. Tunneling is most of the time the ONLY way to help progress these endless matches. Aim of the game is to cap flags and not wander around just killing each other, right? RIGHT? Maybe you should consider TDM @finleymars :B):
     
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  10. TheDirtySwine

    TheDirtySwine Bison Rider Staff Alumni Donator

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    Just spent 10 mins setting up a frontline tower only for a keg and few bombs to take it out in seconds. Builder is only good for playing offensively on the frontlines and even then it's a shitty class because knights do its job better than it does itself
     
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  11. dayleaf

    dayleaf Haxor
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    First the hotel, sauna, cinema, spa, etc. and now tunneling? @rymcd i recall it...
    upload_2015-4-24_18-13-56.jpeg

    (tunnels are bad) 78787878
     
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  12. amgtree

    amgtree Bison Rider

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    If we can't go underground to move up we will just die, die, and die
     
  13. finleymars

    finleymars Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni

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    This is not a formal complaint about tunneling, or any complaint for that matter. Just a joke really::D:
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 25, 2015, Original Post Date: Apr 24, 2015 ---
    One thread cannot contain the most fabulous clan in the world.
     
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  14. Jackard

    Jackard Base Burner

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    Get better maps.
     
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  15. FuzzyBlueBaron

    FuzzyBlueBaron Warm, Caring, Benign, Good and Kind Philanthrope Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester
    1. The Young Blood Collective - [YB]

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    >playing kag
    >not tunnelling
    >plebeian.jpg
     
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  16. NinjaCell

    NinjaCell Haxor

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    The only time my middle tower has actually worked.
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  17. amgtree

    amgtree Bison Rider

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  18. finleymars

    finleymars Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni

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    Towers are very good ways of defending points....maybe you're just shit @TheDirtySwine . :wink:
    learn too put mad spiderwebs of backwall.

    many smaller walls in front of the main wall stop most kegs as well.
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door::stone_door:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::stone_door::door:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    and yes, this wall is not perfect...but it is constructed entirely out of emotes::P:
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2015
  19. TheDirtySwine

    TheDirtySwine Bison Rider Staff Alumni Donator

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    Ground doors are retarded and a single keg tears through that
     
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  20. Colargolator

    Colargolator Horde Gibber
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    A single keg tears through ground walls as well, I wonder who's retarded?
     
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