Is arrow spamming a feature? I hope not..

So I was just playing a round of KAG, and my team was winning. Though slowly, the tide turned against us. We held the offensive the entire time, but..the archers could shoot their bows like machine guns?

It doesn't seem right that every time I'm chasing an archer, he can shoot three arrows at me simultaneously whilst running backwards and tree climbing; killing me instantaneously. Is anyone else confused by this? It seems like the archers should only be able to shoot one arrow a second or so (with reload,) not three.

So my question, is, will this ever get nerfed? Or is it going to remain a 'skill lol your just a noob' as their archers defined it as?

 

I think the archer spamming is done pretty well, meaning I think it's not there. If you click really fast (spam) you dont shoot anything. You need to hold it for at least a very short time before you even shoot an arrow and then it goes like 1 meter and does very small damage.

No, real spamming would be 3 arrows/ second. Any experienced archer will almost always use a fully charged bow unless they shoot only straight down, in which they case they might ''spam''. Which I don't see as spamming, just fast but blockable and almost harmless fast shooting.

 

The problem is not the rate at which archers fire, but the ability to jump while having an arrow charged. It greatly boosts the movement and climbing speed. If that feature alone were removed, there would no need to nerf neither the movement (it is already quite slow if you look at it) nor shooting speed (low charged shots are hard to aim and weak).

 

I'm sorry you didn't get to use my head as a urinal as you stated you would. What you define as arrow spam is merely just archers using what they were given. You should do the same and use your shield until it gets changed.

 

that's why you use knight shield! ^_^

 

It would have been such a nice urinal, too! I would have decorated it with flowers and scented candles!

And thank you, Kouji, I think I ought go chat in those other topics, instead. You can lock this thread if you want.

 

Let it down for a second and an archer can potentially hit you with three arrows, each doing 1 heart of damage.

 

Which is what the topic was about, really.

 

I think that was me. . . Sorry if I tend to use more modern methods than my forestry bros. I will admit to using a machine gun from time to time.

Archers will probably receive balancing in due course along with a lot of other things. I don't want to drag this out like the threads did Kouji linked too. In general though, I think most of us agree balancing needs to wait until more "stuff to be balanced" gets added. We know now more classes are coming soon, not to mention many unexpected things along the way will probably surface.

So to answer your question, is spamming arrows a feature? For now, YES! Perhaps not in the future though . . .


Sorry Kouji if I dragged this thread here, but I feel like maybe discussion should be here instead of on a 3 week old thread.

 

I doubt it cuz in real life people can't fire arrows so fast unless they had like 10 arms or something, and switched off over arm to get most arrow out then.

 

*dumps quiver over enemy*

Umm, yes you can. ;)

Yeah, pretty much what Kouji said . . .

 

People don't play games to play real life. They play these games to feel outside of real life having a good time. Many games have features that don't make sense in real life which is why they are fun. As a side note Indian tribes in the United States were known to fire more than one arrow at a time. Same thing the Mongol Horde did while fighting mostly on horse-back. Rapid arrows are in fact very weak; taking away only half a heart with each shot. However, some shots in the right place will do more damage.

 

they're not weak enough. When you're leaping from tree to tree, somehow still firing arrows unimpaired the entire time, it's easy to land all six hits necessary. Archers seem to have discovered the hidden powers of the bow in Minecraft before the adventure update.

 

At least it's not that bad, I would consider it op if a single archer could turn a knight rush into the no man's land of the Somme in WWI with his belt fed, automatic, 300 rpm, armor piercing, water cooled, creeper killing, minecraft bow. Lets be thankful that the bows here have the rate of fire they do and not something out of minecraft.

 

You're saying this game isn't unbalanced until the mechanics are as badly thought out as those in Minecraft?

 

No, what I am saying is that the problem with archers in kag is in large numbers of them, not the speed at which they fire, the only time I see the firing fast is when running away (easily blocked) and when firing downwards, the only problem with that is when two or more archers fire charged shots downwards, not when one exhausts his arrow supply onto my shield.

 

DWI

 

I remember when I felt the way you do, Cman. I was all, "GRRRR I FUCKING HATE ARCHERS, FUCKING ARROW SPAM IS THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM IN KAG AND GARASDGDGSFDSDFH." Then I played as an archer for a week and haven't looked back. I still highly disagree with TURTLING arrow spamming archers, but an offensive archer that is on the front lines with knights takes a bit of skill and puts you at a real risk; it only takes one bomb or one slash to take us out. Not only that, but shielding deflects 100% of arrow spam. It sucks sometimes yes, but it's certainly not that big of a problem.

Entombing, on the other hand...