Offensive Symbols in KAG --> Offensive Symbols in General --> General Chat on Religion

This is where our ideas differ. I don't understand why it's okay for Christians to kill millions of "Infidels" to gain back their land. Whether you want to believe it or not, even wars happening today happen because of differences in religion. Now let's put these together... A symbol stolen by a nut job who killed millions of Jewish people in WWII... Versus a symbol that has caused millions of deaths, has brainwashed BILLIONS of people over the years, and is still a cause for war nearly 2000 years later? Yeah, I would say that a cross is FAR more damaging and offensive.

 

the difference being intention and offence received. the swastika was used under the nazis as a symbol of their regime, which was designed around the notion of german might and that the native german population was superior to those who were deemed as either lesser or a different species altogether.

although christianity is responsible for a number of abhorrent things such as the crusades, it's difficult to say that islam isn't also somewhat responsible for christian deaths. the ottoman empire alone occupied the balkans which contained millions of christians for hundreds of years.

to compare the cross as a symbol of christianity to the swastika as a symbol of the nazi regime is insanity. they are not comparable because they represent different things and your examples represent two entirely different periods in time.

of course, the "brainwashed" comment is your opinion and you're entitled to that.

 

Of course they're all brainwashed. Have you ever been in a church recently? How people close their eyes and sway and hold their hands to the heavens? How about the fact that they treat an older equivalent of Aesop's Fables as the one, true book of God? Because really, that's what the Bible is. It's a book of fables that over the years has turned from an innocent little rabbit into a mutation of it's former self, grown fangs and horns and latches onto people and their insecurities about life.

My biggest problem with Christianity is this life we live. I like to think that it's more than just a test for something that happens after we die. I like to think that what we do and what we accomplish matters, and that we don't just fade away into the ether. I also like to think that if there really is something out there that's greater than we are, that it really does embrace free will and doesn't teach you that if you pray really really hard, all your dreams will come true. An all knowing, all loving God doesn't simply allow children to die because their mothers shot heroin while they were pregnant, or killing innocent 5-10 year olds with brain cancer when they barely even know what sin means.

It's just goofy and pretentious and it boggles my mind how so many people can be drawn into such bullshit. That's really where I stand, I'm not gonna budge. That's why I feel the cross is 100% more offensive than a silly swastika.

 

Sorry, if the religions are having war because of their contents being compared to others.
Do the atheists ALSO contribute that kind of war because of not having respect to them?
I thought some atheists were so smart about those things but they don't see that they are already being disrespectful to those religions.

 

There's a difference between aggressive atheism and passive agnosticism. I'm agnostic. I let people believe what they please. I understand that we're here for a reason, I just don't know what that reason is, nor do I believe our savior is a bearded, white, Jewish man. I do not shove my beliefs down peoples' throats, I just get angry when people shove theirs down mine or try to make Christianity and it's multiple affiliations innocent.

 

Fuck swastikas, crosses, and any sort of flag.

 

I think i'm with bonesauce here, religions are like your d*ck, it's okay to have one and its okay to be proud of it but you don't have to show it to everyone you meet.

 

To be quite frank I do not know where people get the millions figure from, how can Nazi Germany round up millions of jewish people, and kill them in 4 years.

One they burned mostly all of the documents pertaining to this upon collapse.

Two did someone count out millions of sets of bones at the concentration camps?

It did occur, but the figure of dead jewish people is probably closer to 600000 or less, most of them just relocated thanks to the oppression, millions of Jewish peoples did not magically vanish.


Also alongside of that The Crusades were not as bloodthirsty and genocidal as people imagined, they were mostly fighting islamic soldiers during that. Knights are generally horrible to local foreign populations europe or middle east otherwise, but they did not go out of their way to commit genocide.

 

I somehow agree with bonesauce and eamono.
Some Catholics/Christians are boastful to what they have and what they are.
(though I am a Roman Catholic)
Everything are just right, but some Catholics/Christians are the ones who are wrong with their understanding.
My understanding with my religion is that, they guide you but they do not control your body and your mind.
That means you can think freely and move on your own. Some Catholics/Christians today : "YEAH I'M A CATHOLIC SO I AM SAVED! SO LONG SUCKERS TO THE OTHER RELIGIONS". -_- Yes there are some , I think.
Sorry bonesauce if I ever offended you earlier.

 

Thread topic: Nazi Symbols in kag
Thread discussion: Political-religious symbols and their impact on history

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You can say that we're "Elaborating" to the understanding of the religions to the topic.

 

If this is left in general, then it should at least be KAG related. The discussion is just turning into political babble.

In other words,
You fools have been warned

 

Oh rly?
The thread can be moved by the admins to the other section of the forum.

By the way,
We are STILL in topic, we're not talking about Obamas

here.
It's about those Nazi Symbols, we are just basing other religions as the ideas to help and resolve on what to do to those symbols being built to some KAG servers.
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Umm..
As what many said earlier.
we can leave the things/rules/system/mechanics to the admin/s of the servers?

And only each admin of the server has it rights to make a rule/system.
So we can't do anything unless there are rules to follow inside that server.

 

No worries delankski, I'm probably the hardest person to offend you'll ever meet. You could say something along the lines of, "Hey! Look at that mongoloid! Window-licking nigger deigo kyke!" and I would probably just shrug.

GreenRock, religious topic is completely relevant since the topic of discussion is the swastika. The swastika is originally a RELIGIOUS symbol before being immortalized as ZOMGBAD by Adolf Hitler, so I am elaborating on why I find the cross and other Christian imagery far more offensive.

 

If FBB feels it appropriate we can move the thread or start a PM.