keg nerf.

Ok, I want this thread to be civilized. If an opinion differs from yours, it is not retarded. If I need to "learn2play" then tell me how to counter a keg effectively. If you want to argue, do it in the knight changes general thread. Just follow heribo's example, and you will be fine.

My success rate with kegs is like 90%. It's crazy how easy it is to blow a hole in the enemies wall.

I think it is mainly because when you damage a lit keg to much, it explodes. So if the enemy gets to the wall, he can just sit there shielding, and you will detonate the keg for him.
so make it that kegs don't explode when damaged too much.

opinions.

 

lrn2play nub
It's beyond easy to stop kegs, just prioritize the KAG knights over all others, and grab lit kegs, sacrifice yourself for your team. Also, kegs can never be blocked 100% of the time, as with anything in this game.

 

Well kegs can only be lit by knights, you can't slash with kegs (technically), and kegs are fragile. If you can kill a knight, you can stop a keg. Often time you'll probably destroy the keg in the process of attempting to kill the knight carrying it.

Water bombs/arrows are very good against people carrying keg. It stops them in their track towards your tower, then you can beat the crap out of them.

 

bombs, bomb arrows, mines, siege weapons...
and kegs! this is a small nerf, it just makes kegs require a little more skill to use. It doesn't remove its effectiveness against a tower at all.

I understand what you are saying. I just get frustrated at how keg holders can just light their fuse when ever they want.

 

Thats the whole point of controlled explosives?

 

sorry, I said that very, very wrong.
let me (try to) explain.

I think that part of using kegs should be estimating when to light the fuse, so that you reach the enemy base at the approximate time of the kegsplosion. It adds a certain skill to it.

TO ALL:
To clarify, I think that on a kegs are pretty balanced. My only concern is their ease of use.

idk, maybe its just me.

 

I absolutely agree that killing an enemy with a keg should not explode said keg. That being said,it only explodes if you hit it from the back, but due to lag this is extremely glitchy and usually results in an explosion.

Kegs are INTENDED to render you defenseless and slow you down while you require teammates to protect you until it detonates. Thanks to the slash bug mainly, I can easily solo a horse of scrubs while holding a keg. We should wait and see how the game changes once they fix the slash bug, THEN they can see if it's possible to remove keg-splosions on death.

 

^fair enough.

 

I so agree that kegs are entirely stoppable but that doesn't mean that nerfing kegs wouldn't improve the game. It's good that kegs exist as they allow you to break through defenses if you win combat but at the same time it promotes a stupid kind of gameplay. Many times I see just beelines of knights throwing themselves at the enemy lines hoping to serendipitously break through to the enemy wall. And in pubs, they manage to slip by enemies with alarming frequency.

We have to remember that KAG isn't just played by amazing players like me, or even mediocre players like you lot. 90% of the people who play KAG are quite inexperienced and for them, kegs are kinda bullshit.

 

The one thing I can agree with since I've played for quite some time is explosion upon death. Should just be it either gets destroyed or dropped instead of instant "ALLAHU ACKBAR" the second someone so much as extra jabs him in the middle of combat.

 

I totally agree with that. 2 archers can explode you really easily, it's totally stupid. Keg is too powerful, you can break 5 doors once...

 

IMO its the blast that is the problem:

While the existing keg blows up in a large "+" shape, i think kegs should blow up in a smaller rounder explosion.
The same amount of tiles would be damaged, however the range would be nerfed in terms of straight up or down, or straight side to side.

 

idk, I think keg should be a gamble, like you either blow a huge hole in their base, or don't do anything at all.

 

Thats a *really* bad idea, luck based or random number based anything shouldn't be in any game.

 

make it more expansive or nerf it

 

Now, I do not believe a nerfing is needed... I find it nice that you can detonate a keg when you smack it.. mostly cuz of only 1 reason. Multi-kills. If you kill off a single keg carrying knight in a horde of knights, you'd pretty much be killing off (Almost) the entire team... or just killing the knight and leaving a cracked keg on the ground for someone else to take.

What I like to do at times with the keg, is drop it from a high place and just... pop it on some enemy knights. I call it crowd control and honestly, its pretty effective. It's even more effective when on a catapult.. but other than those things.. waiting till that slash bug is removed is a good idea... cause I really despise the slash bug.... :I

The only nerfing I can think of, is raising the price on bitches, there was one time where I saw keg after keg after keg being trudged up the war path... (Technically multiple times) Just keg spam after keg spam... its a bitch to defend against and; like the Zerg, will destroy your base within a few minutes D:

 

misunderstood again. I was replying to joshTG, I thought I used quotes.

I think the cross explosion should stay, its like specifically made to breach bases. having a round circle explosion would greatly Nerf kegs, and managing to get a keg to the enemy base wouldn't be worth as much.