[1239] Ideas on building time - ClanWars

In this post I'll try to place some ideas on what to do during the building time at cws or competitive-serious matches. There's more people and interest on the competitive scene nowadays, so let's try to share thoughts and ideas on advanced (harharhar) building or defensive/offensive structures.

Please feel free to share your thoughts on this thread, but don't post too obvious things or spam "that thing is easy to destroy with 3 bombs/i can bypass that castle and own you with my left hand", as we already know that structures in KAG 1.0 get destroyed easily and need constant repair/rebuild. Let's keep it simple ">



My first thoughts:

1st. Having a treefarm at the base is a must: spawning as a builder and getting 250-400 wood in less than 5 seconds is ok for laying doors, fast platforms, blocking enemy paths etc. Yeah, nothing new actually, but important imo. Moreover, I suggest making the columns that keep the tree-fall vertical at least 3 tiles up: sometimes the lag makes it not coincide with a vertical fall if you have 1 block only (check the image on 2nd)

2nd. I thought of something like this for the shops at base:



Nothing has to be 100% as shown, but the idea under this:
All the team change to builder everytime they spawn, they get 100 wood and 30 stone, they drop it at the Storage (placed close to the tent for that), then change class at the shops.

If everybody does it when they spawn, they might lose a bit of time, but their economy will be much better and the builder will manage to have around 2x or 3x the amount of mats. I think just changing class twice at the tent might also do the trick, as the mats will remain at it.

3rd. Don't hesitate to place ladders for a better navigation inside your own base. As I see it, most of the times, if you don't have a proper path up, you'll be in more disadvantage: that situation when an enemy gets to your roofs and you can't attack him properly. Even at front walls, why not?:



(The front wall is at the left)

Don't be really afraid of placing ladders at front walls, if you have doors a bit pushed out, platforms, or spikes, that's not really a threat. It's like saying to the enemies "hey, i got some ladders, get on them to get hurt"; climbing on a wall with spikes gives you a hard time. Plus, if an enemy is on your ladder trying to destroy that door, he will surely hit the ladder first.

4th. Simple spikes placement. From my point of view, making badass traps on cw is not a good idea: they get destroyed really fast and rob you some precious time. Spikes are not usually meant to instakill, but to steal some health and to scare the players a bit: "if you get here you will get hurt". Sometimes, a combination of wood/dirt block + spike + team trapblock works great:

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Nice tutorial, those are some kind of basic building advices(for competitive scene).
Well done.

 

I don't aim for this to be a tutorial, just a thread to share simple ideas, don't take the op as something that must be done like it's shown.
Attacking the 2nd point, yday we did some trainings and that simply had no place inside the chaos of the round. Perhaps changing to builder once you spawn and changing back to knight or archer is better.

 

Hah that's anyway better than the average platform wall though, and unless there's no enemies around it's not so easy to bypass.

Edit to not doublepost:

Regarding climbing an enemy tower, the common thing is to spam ladders. I saw kittycity doing something different at a point: up-facing platforms instead of ladders. 1-2 bombs can destroy all those 4 ladders, and blues slashing as well, the platforms have more durability, but are not as fast to climb.




Some ideas on door-placing as well: not stacking them together to absorb explosions better:

Normal/logic door placement (1 bomb arrow would open that):





Wider placement (it could resist some better, specially the 3rd example, archers can shoot from inside and knights have some advantage):





Post your ideas and examples guys! with images if possible.

 

Yeah, there should be a space for it. I saw these guys doing it and it's clearly doable:
https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/kag-clan-war-zen-vs-lk.22149/

@Dargona1018 i think kittycity is a girl, in the vid she sounds like it. Yeah, she's reather good.