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KAG's Dying Competitive Scene

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ShamWow-SuperRag, Jun 8, 2015.

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  1. Snake19

    Snake19 RIP Staff Alumni Donator
    1. [AG#] - Ancient Gear

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    I would like an artist as @xiaojin67 to do ^^
    for a throne a bit like a kag comic :)

    By the way a big thank you for @kittycity for this amazing trailer:heart: :

    kitty can you edit some things like put other texts or change the throne if necessary ?
     
  2. kittycity

    kittycity Haxor

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    Yea tell me anything that needs to be fixed and IL just add it in / fix it
     
  3. Colargolator

    Colargolator Horde Gibber
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    I still really insist in my opinion that we need to set aside ELO rank and tournament play. ELO is good for permanent tracking of clans performance, tournament can have its own system not related to ELO whatsoever. Also, I still think 3 month for a tournament is too long. MLK was stale after 1 month and people lost interest in it.

    I suggest we start implementing the ELO system really soon, let a 1-2 month pass with it and then organize this throne season tournament during this summer. If we put too many happenings at the same time it will feel bloated.
     
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  4. Tern

    Tern Quickfish Donator Official Server Admin
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    MLK never really got stale. Matches were being reported up until the deadline (and some were even reported after the deadline). The problem was that SpideY left and nobody had the time to organize the final elimation bracket with the top four clans.
     
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  5. PUNK123

    PUNK123 Hella wRangler Staff Alumni Tester

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    what if clan wars dont happen?
     
  6. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    Okay, we've talked in this thread for 7 pages, now is the time to actually get stuff together. Lets start compiling our list of stuff that will be included in the "rebirth".

    EDIT: fixed the list

    -We're doing tournaments, specifically "Throne". We could modify that a little bit
    -fixed clan ranking
    -ELO system
    -forced matches to that list with a maximum of 1 challenge every 2 weeks.
    -Better organization of information
     
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  7. Snake19

    Snake19 RIP Staff Alumni Donator
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    I do not want organize 2 tournament for this summer, i have already my event the 1 july for the Ancient gear and the challenge of Daskew to do.
    Throne need to have the ELO system.
    Can we speak Colar on TS this night about this ELO system ? i need to know somethings about it ^^
     
  8. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    Snake, you can organize 1, while we organize another. #yournottheonlyone

    EDIT: Psi, you asked "Who should organize all the clan wars and stuff". Like I said, about 4 or more times, I, yes, I, can be the one who does that.

    That moment when you make a thread, it becomes popular, and then no one listens to you.

    #logic #I'mpassiveagressiveatm
     
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  9. Snake19

    Snake19 RIP Staff Alumni Donator
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    I know i know ^^
    but I may be organized the ELO with Colar ...
     
  10. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Haxor Tester

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    If we're doing ELO, there is no need to do seasons. All you'd do, is set the ELOs back to square one and then strong clans will feed off of weaker ones which isn't very fun for the weaker ones. I think the only time you should do this is if a lot of clans disband and the ELOs are all wacky for whatever reason.

    If you're doing it so you have an end time for giving out prizes, just set a date and whoever is on top on that date will get the prize - not that I really see the significance of a prize. Geti said he wouldn't be implementing any more custom heads and money isn't exactly amazing considering you'll have to share it between 10+ people, and you're not exactly going to get much in the first place. "Oh, yes, I got £2!".

    Personally, I think we should just go in without prizes, or maybe some very small prizes like being able to wear a signature saying "Current champions" on the forums (where any player who isn't a member of the leading clan wearing it gets a warning and has it removed from their signature). This is since we are already having problems where people are not wanting to play because they don't want to lose, if you add more weight to keep a solid streak and not losing, you'll only further fuel the fire.

    Also, add forced matches to that list with a maximum of 1 challenge every 2 weeks.
     
  11. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    ^ Thanks for the feedback.
     
  12. Potatobird

    Potatobird Haxor Forum Moderator Mapping Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    I was bored so I went through all the MLK matches and figured out what everyone's Elo would be. I started at 500. Plenty of these clans are dead and most of the clans that exist now weren't in this tournament but here you go:
    737 . . . . AG#
    713 . . . . Zen
    606 . . . .Power
    589 . . . . NMS
    543 . . . . TB
    543 . . . . AUSS
    522 . . . . BoW
    519 . . . . frisson
    500 . . . . FIST!
    466 . . . . LVT
    457 . . . . TpT
    450 . . . . Ace
    450 . . . . Lk
    450 . . . . pGc
    415 . . . . MaJoR
    332 . . . . MIST
    302 . . . . KR
     
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  13. kittycity

    kittycity Haxor

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    10,000. . . [hat]
    737 . . . . AG#
    713 . . . . Zen
    606 . . . .Power
    589 . . . . NMS
    543 . . . . TB
    543 . . . . AUSS
    522 . . . . BoW
    519 . . . . frisson
    500 . . . . FIST!
    466 . . . . LVT
    457 . . . . TpT
    450 . . . . Ace
    450 . . . . Lk
    450 . . . . pGc
    415 . . . . MaJoR
    332 . . . . MIST
    302 . . . . KR

    fixed 25252525
    anyway that seems like it would work.. but would we go into negative ELO if one clan really sucked?
     
  14. Colargolator

    Colargolator Horde Gibber
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    I'm totally alright if you manage this stuff! Of course, if we can all have your ear and we can participate too in this ;)
     
  15. Potatobird

    Potatobird Haxor Forum Moderator Mapping Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    Yeah, but it would be pretty hard :P
     
  16. blackjoker77777

    blackjoker77777 Haxor Tester
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    you forgot YB
    99,999...[YB]
    :smug:
     
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  17. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    This is a community, a close knit everybody-knows-everybody type. One would be foolish if to completely ignore that and go "lone-wolf".
     
  18. PUNK123

    PUNK123 Hella wRangler Staff Alumni Tester

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    no
    thats kinda crappy. For example AG# fought mist 4 times while BoW fought frisson, Zen, fist, etc
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2015
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  19. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    How about if you fight the same clan twice or more within 2 months the amount of change in ELO is cut in half.
     
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  20. kittycity

    kittycity Haxor

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