Did we win? - Understanding the mod and the rules.

So before we begin season 2 of MLK, I just wanted to rewrite the rules in a way that more people would understand. I want to make sure everyone knows how it works so that when a match ends both teams are just like "Wait, did we win?!?!" So, here are the rules:

Some terminology before I get into the rules (all these terms will be in bold throughout the post):

• There are two rounds in one match.
• There are thirty ticks in one second. It is basically just a smaller unit of time to make things more accurate.
• The number of ticks past mid of a team is the sum of the ticks past mid of each player on that team. The number of ticks past mid of a player is just a more accurate way of representing the number of seconds that player has been past the middle of the map.
• The number of ticks it took to take the lead is in other words, how long it took that team to take the flag that put them in the lead by flag caps.

The basic stuff:

• A one hundred fifty second build time.
• A twenty five minute timer.
• By the end of the twenty five minute timer, if neither team has capped a flag yet or both teams have an equal number of flag caps, the timer will extend another ten minutes. By the end of the first ten minute timer, if neither team has capped yet or both teams have an equal number of flag caps, the timer will extend another ten minutes. By the end of the second ten minute timer, if neither team has capped yet or both teams have an equal number of flag caps, the round will end. If at the end of any timer, both team have an unequal number of flag caps, the round will end.
• At the end of the round, the number of ticks past mid of both teams will be always be printed to chat. If the number of flag caps is unequal at the end of the round, then the winner's number of ticks it took to take the lead will be printed in the chat.
• The number of seconds past mid will always be rendering close to the bottom left of the screen (similar to where the number of tickets each team has renders in a Gather match).

Determining the winner of a round:

• If a round ends and neither team has capped a flag yet or both teams have an equal number of flag caps, then the winner will be determined by which team has more ticks past mid. If both teams run into the extremely rare occurrence of having an equal number of ticks past mid, then the match needs to be replayed.
• If a round ends with an unequal number of flag caps, then whichever team had the most flag caps, wins that round. The ticks it took to take the lead will be stored somewhere in your chat log if you lose track of it. KAG's chat logs are always written to the disk in ../KAG/Logs.

Determining the winner of a match:

• If a team wins both rounds, that team wins the match.
• If a team loses both rounds, that team loses the match.
• If both teams won one round and the winner of both of the rounds was determined by the number of ticks past mid, then whichever team had the largest number of ticks past mid on the round that they won, wins the match.
• If both teams won one round and both of the rounds' winners were determined by a lead in flag caps, then the team that had the smallest number of ticks it took to take the lead wins the match.
• If both teams won one round and one team won their round by a lead in flag caps, and the other team's round was won by having a larger number of ticks past mid, then the team that won their round by a lead in flag caps wins the match.

Other Stuff:

• Each team can pick which server they want to have their round in. The other team doesn't have a say in which server your team wants to play on.
• If both teams agree, the clan war can be a 4v4 or a 6v6.
• Only two subs are allowed on one team. The other team has the right to deny all or any of your subs.
• If a team does not show up within fifteen minutes from the time agreed, the other team will be granted a win by forfeit. If neither teams show up, no points will be granted to either team.
• A team has to inform the other team about postponing a match twenty four hours in advance.

That concludes the end of the rules. I strongly encourage that at the very least every clan leader reads this set of rules. Please report any bugs in the mod here and make sure to ping me while you're at it. Thanks for reading.

 

Reserved.

 

Yo, this is still some complicated shit.
It unfortunately still leads to some odd scenarios like the tick time being completely even in both games.

If both of them even in rounds, why not just run a third match?

At least, if it was win by flag caps.

 

What if said match then ends up completely equal with the same number of ticks and all?

 

I think you have a great point, but I feel like when you are losing a game really hard and you just pull a tie out of your ass, the other team will feel really salty because imo i feel like they truely earnt the win. and for the record,

I have played a LOT of competitive kag and ive lost a LOT too. just look at my clan page. but most of my losses are from just private captains and gather and stuff.

 

Well, really in the end CTF is about not letting the flag get caught at any rate, not about holding middle ground. While holding middle ground is a good strategy and one (of many) ways you can determine who might win, that can quickly sway. Overall it's just an odd substitute for a gamemode that sets down it's own rules pretty clearly.

However, I guess having a time limit and a way to get around it is probably necessary since some good games can indeed last several hours, which is something that especially if you're going to have someone cast these, can be very problematic. Putting an upper limit of an hour wouldn't be bad, but you would still need a way to handle matches, but I also don't understand the insistence on the 2 matches instead of just a straight Bo3 I suppose.

 

we do bo2 instead of bo3 because the third round is always difficult because of trying to find a server with equal ping when fighting a clan from a different region

 

no, the ticks it took to take the lead will basically just be the number of ticks from the beginning of the match till the flag cap. (so just how long it took to cap the flag)

 

snake i told u that i already implemented this >>

 

I know you guys have all these ideas, and I know that you guys think it is too complicated, but this is the idea that the people voted for. Although everyone doesn't agree with it, its most likely going to stay the way it is. Believe me, once you see the mod in-game, you will see that it's not as complicated as you think. If after a match, two teams aren't sure how to determine the match winner, just ask me, and give me the chat logs so that I can help you. But really, if you just take the rules one step at a time, it will not seem that complicated. The mod automates all of the "The basic stuff:" So all you have to do is wait until the end of a round. After the round, the mod will print everything, and you can just refer to the "Determining the winner of a round:" portion. After that just play the second round and do the same thing. After that just do a quick read-through of the "Determining the winner of a match:" part and you will find the winner. There are a lot of "if this, then that" so if you just read the bullet points most likely you will be like "oh, that doesnt apply to me" and you just move on to the next bullet point. I hope that this helps.