General kag changes

What about all those lovely rage-saving possible changes like boulders being able to be walked thru by teammates, things not being damaged in your hands, bomb arrows not eating thru things behind blocks(doors and platforms(unless that is a feature inwhich case why)). Personally i feel like portable explosive bolts(bomb arrows) needs a complete rework that wont make archers salty; probably nerfing its 3 block destructing bs, destroying things behind the blocks they hit, and lowering its cost to 30 coins per. Also any response to explosives harming dirt or, in a perfect world, adding more ease of access for things like drills and mines(taking them out with space).

 

No, you are wrong. Bombs and Bomb bolts do not damage platforms behind a solid block, or atleast they do not insta-gib/have anywhere near the destructive power of bomb arrows

I have no idea what point you are trying to make. What is a bomb-safe floor, and what 100s of coins worth of items.

Sorry to hear about having no interns but tbh bomb arrows need to be eventually be fixed. having something that you can use to just cancerously eat thru the enemy is never a good thing(i frequently find myself with 300+ coins and then i just decide to setup the archershop spam area and gg).


EDIT: i think you're misunderstanding my issue, i do not like bomb arrows as they are and i think that them eating platforms that are BEHIND a block is the problem. Them being shut down by a reversed platform does insta-kill the platform it hits and isnt the issue. There shouldnt be any item ingame you can use without any setup that will trash the enemy like bomb arrows do. Making changes similar to what kedram suggested 9 months ago and stoping the "eating" that bomb arrows do would be a great change imho. Or we can wait 3-6 months until the general opinion of the playerbase is that the mechanic is cancer, but that would be stupid. Eventually things should be realized and changed faster, it took forever to fix boulders, ballistaes, ect. Lets not waste more time allowing abusive bomb arrow spam(not that i dont do it aswell ;D). ATM the only true way to survive a bomb arrow onslaught is either to have hella layers or to build a repairable "module" you can hide behind ie:

 

Isn't Skinney working on a fix for unwanted behavior of blob blocks (fake/not hardcoded tiles) to make them function like normal blocks? That should come eventually.

 

Would the saw be programmed to instakill on top of the knight still or at his back where the sprite is? As that is the problem with putting it on his back, crates? Crates would be perfect on a knights back but sawmills would cause lot's of confusion, and would increase the number of accidental deaths by those carrying saws. Also I feel like the throwing of said items would look awkward.

"Well then what's your idea mr. perfect Terri the all knowing god of saw and crate carrying?" Well I don't really know, it's rather complicated. But i'd say have the knight carry the crate/saw above his head with one arm, then remove slashing and jabbing but keep shielding. That's the only way I can see it without it being confusing or looking stupid.

Unless the saw automatically turned itself off as a knight was carrying it, I see no way of having it on his back without leading to many teamkill incidents and confusion. (If this is what you meant by carrying it on their back, OOPS.)

 

punk is there a way to please you forever?

 

If a person is carrying a saw and you jump onto the saw, you get killed and the saw automatically turns off. But the saw still kills you. I could be overthinking the way that the saw is carried though, I would need to see a sprite of what the intentions are. For example, if it's (Blade up) like the saws usually are, and it's just move to the back like a keg, then fuck no. If it's (Blade to the left) then teammates can run into it and enemies have a much harder time chasing you, so fuck no. Ifi t's (Blade downwards) ehhh, Less likely to kill people and doesn't show animations but you can jump on your teammates and kill them, which is bad, so fuck no. If it's (Blade to the right that makes no fucking sense) and if it's turned on as soon as you start carrying it, then that's great no matter where the blade is :D

EDIT: However, if it turns out that every death i've suffed from saws being like that turns out to be my team throwing the saw up at me, then sorry, but otherwise I swear I remember carrying saws allow you to kill your team members who jump on you.

 

Under thinking******. the saw doesnt instakilling when it is in someone's hands, they have to release it. Please test things if you dont understand them.

 

I went and did and found it out. My apologies, I just didn't know.

EDIT: I guess all those times I died were by them dropping the saw or throwing it, I never knew that before, i've always been so paranoid carrying a saw because of that shit, this completely changes my saw trap design now! :D

 

For the first part, i was confused on what you meant/ what it had to do with my issue. Obviously i dont have an issue with explosives damaging things behind a 1 block thick wall, but just crushing all doors/ platforms(behind solid blocks) isnt likable imo. My issue is bomb arrows just disintegrating the non-solid blocks, not damaging players behind blocks. As for the ground platform things i guess they are pretty bad, tho i havent seen it abused ingame/ it hasnt affected me so i cant comment. As for the "2hp rambo" comment, i never use it that way, i spam the bomb arrows from 10-15 blocks away quickly(usually between 200-400 coins worth) until we cancerize their defense and they are forced to lose. Which is trash you shouldnt be able to buy a win like that imo. I personally feel like bomb arrows are stronger because you can do it without any setup and really catch them off guard, and it takes less time to lay down the destruction. As for the "make bomb arrows way less powerful and then halve the price lol" generalization of my opinion, i feel like it is a needed fix to an unfair mechanic. If you limit its 3 block hitbox then you wont have the gg spam into the front of the flagroom. If you remove the eating it does to the non-solid blocks then you can have actual forward defense building(instead of losing your forward tower to a bomb arrow insta crush). I mean i guess they are pretty huge nerfs but obviously the arrow would still be the strongest at 3o coins per, 2-3 hp per hit(not sure which it actually deals), and the range.

for the "input block" thing, i guess it sounds cool but i mean you can still slash with a drill/tramp were those suppose to be fixed in this way? Also it would be glorious if things in your hands stopped being effected by bs(explosions from bomb arrows, kegs, being mined, ect).


EDIT: about the backward platforms, is the whole issue that knight bombs dont damage thru them? If they faced the otherway the effects wouldnt be that much different for bomb arrows(except maybe it would take out 3 plats instead of 1).

 

Hmm, that's a shame. Wouldn't it be possible to affect the rate of absorption though? Like... make water that's far away from the sponge affect it's "fullness" less than water that's right next to it?
Then a sponge would just either be a 10-second air pocket or a 3-second drainage tool, depending on whether you move while using it or not.

I just really like sponges ;-;

 

I certainly have an issue with explosives damaging me behind a 1 block thick wall
Any way the boulder could really use its ability to damage doors again and the saw When Loaded Into The catapult should still kill people when they jump into it from above

 

Eh enough of trying to fix broken things in kag lets just make it less irritating, why cant we get ressuplies without empty our inventory it is literally the worst thing ever. I dont want to hear any of that B.S about how it encourages afk because you can pretty easily kick those people. Also it basically discourages any actual resource gathering as you wait for the resupply(because if you gather stone and wood you would have to drop them to get the resupply because only 1 thing in hands).

 

The saw in a catapult is useful because you can't remove or deactivate the saw if you don't own the catapult, and the only way to own it is to get close to it... which you can't because of the saw.
The catapult also absorbs a lot of damage so your saw will effectively be immune to bombs.

 

Define huge. I think something needs to be done to make it less totally bullcrap. I mean i guess ill just have to wait til it becomes cancer like when people were begging for ballista changes 9 months ago. More questions i get when playing kag: is placing backwall behind spikes suppose to make it harder to target the spikes themselves? I mean i kinda understand why they do because actual spike traps would benefit but not really because they are easier to break immediately after they pop out(the spikes). I just feel like removing cancer spikes are more irritating that it should have to be.

Also what is the aoe a bomb arrow. I just dont know that one.