B935 - CTF & TTH tutorials added

I added the much needed game mode tutorials for Capture the Flag and Take the Halls. They are a bit text heavy but I’m quite in a hurry and couldn’t do something more fun in a day. The important thing is you will learn all the necessary things about the game modes from playing these tutorials.

Some things were cleaned out. Like saw killing team mates (too griefer friendly and annoying). Item arrows and far item destruction in TTH workshops. I find those things useless and confusing so I removed them.

Also, fixed Necromancer not appearing at final map in “Save the Princess”. This must have sucked, but you can play it again now if you missed him.

Have fun!
MM

Other changes in build 935:

[modified] saw doesn't kill team mates (too annoying!)

[fixed] can't hit constructed rooms in CTF as builder.

[script][added] convenient builder_alwayshit_fragment array for partial name matches (eg "shop" for all shops)

[remove] far item destroy button

[removed] item arrows in workshops

[fixed] texts appearing in front of research menu

[modified] renamed peasant/migrant to worker wherever necessary

[fixed] crash in minimap on next map

Original DevBlog post.

 

hahahaha

have fun marching through entire battlefields of saws made by johny98 and his minecrafting friends

kag promoting skill as usually

 

I noticed the same thing.

This is the first time I have had a bad feeling about a change in an update. Perhaps this is a part of growing up.

Making saws "foolproof" just seems so excessive considering that you can even turn them off now.

The only reason I can see for this change is that we want to nurture the temperaments of Steam-people.

Lets see how this plays out.

 

Saws are not meant to be retard proof! The switch off option was good enough because it let people actually do something about it.

 

Good thing for saws, once I had the flag almost captured someone from my team through a saw done while I was jumping ... I died. :(

 

NOOOOOOOO! The peasants... All the fun was now taken away from KAG.

 

>removes saw doing what they've been doing best since early beta
>skill

 

Saws should definitely kill team mates. You can just make a insta kill trap safe for your team, huge balance upset.

 

About the saws, god damn, that was half the fun.
About "removing" "Destroy Far Items", it functioned in the first place

 

Personally, I like the change and don't like it. I like it because I was getting sick of people carefully placing saws in the areas where knights landed after jumps (I swear this shit was griefing) on the other hand, this removes all of the risk from them. I presume you removed the button to turn them off now that they're useless?

Also, you should implement team color changing saws. If an enemy builder gets to your saw, he can press C to pick it up, it becomes his team color, and now his guys can pass through it safely.

Please. Please do this.

 

The issue with that is that it replaces the problem of how the saws were pretty much meaningless against those that could simply spam the C key.
It is why non-cis teams can't pick them up now, or then.

 

Well only builders on the enemy team would be able to swap them, not knights and archers. THe potential uses for this feature are limited, but I can see someone spamming the battlefield with saws, only to have a smart enemy builder come through and swap the teams for the saws really quick. This would help curb the inevitable spamming of saws that -will- happen eventually.

 

only i like new saws?

 

Trust me, you can't spam saws as effectively as you make them out to be.

I know this because saws are very easy targets even without being swappable, especially since you need to fall more than two blocks from above to trigger them.
[So to be effective, you need to put them at the bottom of a pit, or in the middle of a drop zone, and it is very easy to simply be careful when jumping over or near a saw]
They grind up explosives, making them explode, making them a liability when dealing with active mines, kegs, and normal bombs.

As far as anything, making them kill anyone indiscriminately actually made the issue of tossing saws around pretty low, since it heavily inconveniences your team as well.
Also, active saws destroy each other, so you have to spen quite a bit of time, or resources tossing/placing them around. And that is not even talking about making them long-lasting, which requires constant maintenance and stone usage.

 

I've actually tried this myself, it doesn't help... It must be the presence of ground level doors, explosives, and alternative methods to impart.

I've remembered how much balance is indecently subjective.
So much for no-stunlock archers. :/

 

Part of me likes the new saws part of me hates them...liking them when they are around the base for things like trees and I don't accidentally jump in...but hate them for when the enemy uses them for defenses...Had one case where someone got one and brought it to the battle field, so not only would he drop it randomly so people would fall in sometimes, but also you couldn't see his slashes almost at all! It was pretty frustrating.

 

Good i'think

 

/re-reads thread

wait, what solution by monsteri