Dead game is dead...

Don't flatter yourself.

 

@Vidar , you god damn right.
Game dead, coz it was murdered, don't know for what reason.

 

#revivekagclassic

 

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God damn right you are.

 

Minimize the hurt? If you actually do care about what you say you do, why don't you go look at my post history and see what's gone on. I don't sugar coat things about this game, but I also don't specifically attack anyone or make overly negative statements or talk a bunch of shit. If you have an issue w/the thread going to Flametown then why don't you go look at who it is that starts the flamewars, because it's certainly not me. I just don't sit down and take it, which is why the LK thing became a thing, and probably the last straw in their stupid little set up. You'll see me defend myself here, but if you wanna come at me and tell me to simmer down for that then maybe you need to re-evaluate exactly what kind of Mod you want to be...or are.

It's an absolute fact that this game is filled w/bugs that need to be fixed.
It's an absolute fact there are issues w/gameplay/classes/balance that discourage new players, and it's an absolute fact that the current 'community' doesn't want to acknowledge any of these issues.
It's an absolute fact that there are issues w/admins in this game. Yes I had issues with LK admins, and I pointed those out directly. I haven't lumped ALL admins in or made blanket statements about ALL admins, and if you'll notice there's another thread about this made by someone other than me on the front page of this forum.

Lots of people here like to personally attack me rather than facing the issues about this game, or like to somehow misconstrue my criticism for hate and then tell me to leave.

I LIKE this game. I think the principals behind it are great, even though it's simply Terraria with PvP and Harry Potter theme music ripped off -- I still like it.

What I don't like is a major percentage of the 'community' who are hostile and take the game more seriously than it is. This game is not some huge competitive tourney game like Quakelive or something, and it's not a hugely popular game like WoW. Right now it's a game that doesn't have a real player base, that doesn't have a real identity, and is pretty much unreccomendable to anyone who isn't a hardcore PC Gamer. But, as recently witnessed IN THIS THREAD, the Devs are completely fine with that, because they've sold a boatload of copies, and this is even MORE insulting to players who like the game, considering they claim 1 million + sales, but still don't have time to fix bugs that have been here for months and months and months, have no apparent plan for the future of this game or its eventual release status from Beta, and are totally inactive with community interaction and feedback on the level they should be for the sales they have. To have claimed to have sold 1million + copies of a game that has 60 people on at a time should tell you something is wrong. To be posting on the Forums in a thread about your game being dead, claiming it's NOT dead in that very thread, because you've sold a bunch of copies, and then not having a plan for the game or an answer for its lack of player base is absurd arrogance at best and downright disdain for your consumers at worst.

The people who understand what's wrong w/this game and see it dying had better speak up, because right now the only people who are really saying anything are just here to start arguments and to defend a game that's dying. How the Devs treat this game is a disgrace and how the community treats new players is just as bad. 1million + sales and 60 people on at a time in a game that's in fucking Beta? I dunno how to justify the health of a game when .00006% of its consumer base is on at a time.

 

Thanks for making my point.

And nope, I'm not. People can't discern emphasis from madness.

 

Look at my last post and my other posts. Where am I NOT pointing out things with this game that need fixing/addressing to help it? Hmmmmmm?

 

I don't give two fucks. I don't give a single fuck. People on this forum, who are not even being addressed by me, take offense to my posts and choose to not address or consider any of my points. Not everyone. But a lot of people.

My points are no less true. People think because I say this game is dying that I'm somehow telling people to stop playing or they shouldn't be playing or I hate the game, which is nothing even remotely close to what I've said.

This game has issues. Tons of them, the least of which are the bugs, and the largest being the lack of accessibility, learning curve and community. Quakelive had a similar problem and took steps in a recent patch to make the game more friendly to new players. A lot of the vets got their panties in a twist, but they continued to go on and Quake got a new bunch of players. This game isn't even officially released yet and it's having the same problem as a 10 year old game (or whatever).

Instead of discussing the issues, people would rather bicker on this board. I won't be responding to anymore personal insults or off topic discussions. If anyone actually cares to discuss why this game is dying and what to do about it other than have the same 60 people playing off and on then I'm all ears, but otherwise don't bother.

 

Before I stop responding to these things, I'm not mocked and ridiculed. What I am is attacked for making suggestions by veterans in this game who are entrenched in the way things are and can't imagine the game ever changing, who don't care about growing a player base, who like to call people shitters and say 'rekt' and treat this game like it's /b/

Even if I was being mocked and ridiculed for that, it would just make my point even more substantial that the player base in this game, as a whole, don't give two fucks about the actual game, they just want to argue among themselves, call each other shitters, say rekt, call each other 'nigger faggots' and so on and bury their heads in the sand while the game dies.

Next time the doctor tells you you have cancer, make sure he has a smile on his face or don't believe him.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 16, 2014, Original Post Date: Nov 16, 2014 ---

I've made suggestions without tone and been shit talked, like when I mentioned builders should get points and everyone told me points don't matter and only knights should get points. Like when I mentioned I think bombs should be either nerfed or cost a little more and everyone told me I'm a newb, because I suck and that knights used to be better and therefore the fact that they aren't as good as they used to be justifies their status now...but I digress.

I don't think joining servers is the issue. It's what happens when you join a game.

When I brought my friend to play he had absolutely no idea what to do when a game starts. The issue isn't how to maneuver your character, but how to be a part of a team. I think the class layout on the TAB menu needs to be more obvious so people know what's what. I don't know how many games I run into where it's 9 players with 6 builders and 3 archers and no one realizes the team has no nights. Or maybe some warnings pop up like the team balance warnings saying like: Blue team has only 1 knight! Anyone want to swing a sword!?" I mean whatever. I think the tab/map/chat interface needs a drastic overhaul. The chat tab should be on its own away from the other messages so votes don't move out team chat. It's in a discrete place as it is and a lot of people miss out on what's being said by not glancing down.

Another issue my friends who I try to get to play have is how easily they get killed. Knights just one hit everyone that isn't a knight, and it is a big learning curve to learn how to knight. It's also not that easy to aim arrows so if you join and are an archer that doesn't really know what he's doing, you're fucked. This game has a many day learning curve and doesn't place people really with people of their skill level. In an FPS you generally know how to shoot people, and you have to learn what guns are what etc., but in this game each class has a lot to learn. You have to learn how to wall climb back and forth, how to swing over walls as an archer, how to time your slashes as a knight or avoid them etc. and it just discourages most players from coming back. I personally don't have issues with this, but the game as a whole clearly does with how many people play vs. how many people bought the game.

Classes need to be reworked somehow, and I don't claim to have a complete answer as to how, but right now newb builders don't really know how to build a base well. You get poorly laid out shops etc. Maybe some sort of layout function for builders so they can understand where to build things so we don't have shops at the edge of the map that can't be closed in, or shops not walled off, maybe there's some sort of alerts that could be built in for builders showing suggestions of where to place things or suggesting walls to close them in etc.?

Maybe split classes up? Maybe two different types of worker? Base/defensive and offensive? Each do different things? Maybe two different types of knights? Maybe just rebalance knights?

I'm throwing out ideas here, but all I know is the learning curve in a game like this is steep. New builders don't understand how to fortify a base well, and with knights being able to bomb jump like they are right now, a simple wall from a new builder doesn't help at all, and then he's gonna get pissed or shit talked and leave. New archers have a really really really hard time, and it takes a long time to know how to knight effectively. There are ways to right these situations while still maintaining the skill aspect of the game.

 

I'd love for you to quote me where I said I would like admins to die of cancer, so go ahead and dig that up for me.

Also, you can make excuses you want all you want for the status of your game, but us consumers who paid for it, have every right to speak up. When you speak to Comcast for giving you shitty service, or the grocery store for selling you spoiled produce, or Amazon for sending you a defective product, or UPS for breaking your package in transit, do you just accept their excuses and move on? Or do you ask for your money back or compensation of some sort? Do you make suggestions?

We paid for this game and supported it. I've put a lot of my friends on to it. This is an indie game, your struggles to get it going are not unique. Basically every indie dev does this out of passion and love and hopes to make money later. Well you did that, and you did make money later. Congratulations. You're no longer broke. You can't sell a million + copies of this game and be anywhere near broke. Cut the game down to a skeleton crew who can fix bugs and someone capable of listening to the community and introducing updates.

I'm not innately hostile, but when I hear the insanely juvenile rational and excuses from people on this board it makes my head spin. We as the community of paying consumers are not here to care about your excuses for why the game isn't where it should be. I will listen and understand, but I want to hear some answers or plans or possible solutions from people -- which I'm not hearing. I'm also just being told over and over I'm being hostile. I don't care. I'm hostile to Comcast too when they put another 40 dollars on my bill hoping I won't notice.

ps. the 'nigger faggot' calling happens in game, which you would notice if you read my posts hard and didn't confuse me with other posters. But yeah, dig up that post of me wishing cancerous deaths on admins. I'll wait.