Community Fixes Inbound

actually

i actually experienced flying sharks. it was like the bug/glitch that now happens with 2 knights.

pls geti make it official, i want to ride flying sharks.

 

If it comes from infront of you im pretty sure you take damage(anon is still abusing the hell outa these boulder man......)

 

Honestly running around with a boulder tapping people, even being under people and throwing it up is op.... yes you can hold down but that isn't the point :P it shouldn't be happening at all as far as I'm concerned :/

 

Don't worry. I fix the Boulder.
Yet, it won't be fixed for this build.

 

Can we get kedram seeking water bombs and arrows?

 

As much as people might hate this opinion, I still feel boulders are pointless items to the game that causes cheap kills and generally a lot of problems. We will see how well this update takes care of that but otherwise they are one of the many reasons I near refuse to play anymore (I mainly play TDM, for context) and am currently only interested in the SP mechanics in the other thread.

Otherwise the other changes all sound good! I really hope to upgrade my PC soon so I can at least get to see how well CTF plays with all this!

 

They used to be able to break down doors very quickly. Why was that taken away? Now you have to either cross your fingers and hope you can get a keg close enough, or cross your fingers and hope you can get a builder close enough. I would use the occasional boulder back when they broke stone doors in 2-3 hits. It made them useful, other than for cheap and entirely bs kills.

 

There are some things about the boulder that are very frustrating but have you ever tried playing just an archer boulder class? It's incredibly difficult to stay alive and be effective if you just use boulders. It also gives archers a way to kill multiple enemies. I think a more effective nerf would be to not allow archers to shoot while having the boulder equipped. That way it increases the difficulty a little bit but still alows for counterplay.

 

So VERY heavy, in fact, that one wonders how an armor-clad knight or a wiry archer can carry and throw them with crushing force! How are they both of these at the same time?:

• light enough to be carried around with a grappling hook, thrown, and carried while swimming
• heavy enough to crush someone dead on contact

 

Imagine if trying to use the hookshot while falling with a boulder in hand simply snapped the hookshot in half at the apex of the fall. That would be something.

 

thats why i call them antimatter boulders, they are infact really light but kill anyone they touch xD

 

I swear, Geti could put in an infinite range, infinite ammo laser pistol, and someone would come on here and vehemently argue that "It's really not OP or imbalanced, if you think about it," all the while blithely disregarding all of the points about how it IS imbalanced.

I feel this way about the boulder. If it was just added today for the first time, everyone would be like "WTF OP".

But I digress. There's already 708 threads about how the boulder is broken, many of which are chock full of really good, and so far un-refuted points.

 

its not OP or unbalanced until you kill @Geti with it enough that he rages

ie. first time water arrows, throwable logs, etc

 

Part of the reason things like boulders are hard to balance is simply the effect I call Balance Limbo, the frustrating point where a game's fanbase is small enough where a developer can easily get iffy on changing things people love because while it would make the experience better...pitchfork raise and things burn. Also it'd be nice to test out that HurtOnCollide thing in a server, anyone hosting?

 

it works very well, i think its definetly a step in the right direction