Bring back the glory of boats.

I would just reduce swimming speed and be unable to attack under water, those old boat battles need to return!

 

I really like the idea of having to have boats to progress in a water map. As makmoud said, it would only be in some maps.

 

Hmm... Perhaps reduce swimspeed and make an exhaustion thingy making you incapable of swimming great distances. So now you can only swim 10 blocks for example, and then slowly descent forcing you to drown.
It's a tough one and will definitely need more discussion!

 

Excellent idea, would even take it a step further make knights exiting water slowed for a min or 2
. Never understood how a knight in 60+ pounds of plate and 30 + pounds of qwilted wool padding could just swim around with no problems. Would make water a vary useful strategic choke point, add a bit of realism.

 

This is actually an interesting alternative to removing water, but it s0unds frustrating. Maybe someone can mod it and try it out on a server for a little while.

 

Make lakes smaller then implement plss. Also boats are weird.

 

I like the idea but we need maps built around this, the current water based maps won't do. Also, the water should be completely back walled by dirt so that builders can build bridges without having to swim down to make supports. This would allow for early game pushes instead of both teams waiting for boats or teams waiting on builders who have to make supports for there bridges.

 

We would need to balance things a bit better first, cost-wise.

A warboat costs 250 coins. To add a ballista on top of that, you need 150 coins, for 400 coins in total. All of that can be sunk with a few bomb bolts from the enemy team, and even captured. Longboats are cheaper, faster, and more practical. Dinghies are useful in some cases but you need to have knights on them to shield the rowers from arrows. Warboats are horribly inefficient for their price.

That's three types of boats right there. That could be enough, but warboats rarely see use (even on water maps), and dinghies pale in comparison to longboats, which are also fast enough to ram structures and carve caves out of the enemy walls. We need to give warboats a massive edge over the other boats to compensate for their size and speed, and we need to make each boat good in one specific situation. In most cases, for example, you could swap out a dinghy with a longboat and you'd be in a much better position. Dinghies by themselves have no advantage over longboats other than cost.

 

Mmm.. certain maps could have wavy water (?), these maps would make it very difficult to swim. Only boats would be able to function properly to move across water. Inability to swim would be crappy, but inability to stay floating would be nice.

Would be nice to have mechanics for using stuff like crates and logs as floatation devices. Gotta have lots of water travel options for a map with rough water.

 

Also I think it would benefit the game if boats of the same color/team would pass through eachother, this would make the 2D boat combat more fluid.

 

I don't want this. IMO, water combat is in a good place and a lot of fun. Sure, there are shitty stalemate water maps in CTF, but those are the maps fault. If I made a map with a bedrock wall in the middle separating the two teams, there'd be a stalemate, too.

Boats, like siege weapons, are just annoying gimmicks in my eyes and I really don't understand why people want these things in the game :/.

 

Give swimming more gravity, make it harder to stay up in the wavy water. You can only jump so often in water if it is rough.

This is the most intuitive to me, as people aren't taking damage for no reason and it's easy to understand.

The water does have to look visually different, which may be the most difficult part. It needs to be an intuitive design or people will not understand and will be upset about it.

 

Hmm.. that certainly is strange. It just needs to look different somehow to indicate the change in mechanics.

 

Boats of the same team passing through eachother seem like a pretty important feature imo. For example, your team has a Warboat in the middle of a body of water everyone on that boat dies and the enemy team begins to cap it. Now in order for your team to win back their boat they purchase a longboat and successfully repel the attack on their warboat. With this feature the longboat could continue forward while the warboat remains in a safer location allowing for it to avoid enemy siege/bombs without keeping your team from advancing.

 

Boats should do damage when you throw them from a high tower, @Fellere825 would agree with me.