Thanks, very much appreciate it.
Yeah, I was busy nerfing his scroll right now :P Gregor uses runes to get hp+speed just about as much as I do, and no one complains when I do it. The easiest way to counter it is to learn how to make hp and speed runes yourself.
I'm considering banning greg, but I kinda need him to find out the OP combinations so I can nerf them.
Heh, it's more the fact that people constantly complain that he's ruining it or making it unfun when he's online. I'd rather everyone-1 have fun than just 1 guy.
The problem with him was that he was constantly did it for 10-15 matches in row, and his team won in 80% of these matches. Maybe some good ingame manual with main scrolls description can avoid such things? so everyone can use them to counter such players, as it's hard to guess what scrolls can be combined with.
Thing is Phoenix, I (and Greg, and a lot of others) used the good ol' fashioned scientific method to figure it out. I would find it great if a player figured it all out and put up some information on the forums himself, but I don't think Rob needs to dumb-down the mod.
(If anything, I think having scrolls and runes become MORE arcane would be more fun)
-Q, the bad thing here, is that if someone knows how to OP with scroll, he just doesn't allow others to do it, as the whole team fights with just one player almost the whole match. And then person with scroll is TOO OP versus person who doesn't know how to use scroll, that just can't play normally.
Often matches completes even without near equal scores. a couple of minutes ago there was a match where Spawns Remaining was 0 vs 40.... and it's totally because of scrolls and also because spawnkillers that used scrolls. Imho, at the moment mod isn't balanced because of mighty scrolls. And imho, hp\teleport scroll needs to be nerfed, or we need some good ingame manual, so other can know how to fight with scrollers.
So here two more examples of scrolls OPing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILM7K3Mgefw - here gregor_builder spawned 3 sharks on blue base. Obviosly it isn't easy to kill them, so each blue player spawned here - died very quickly. On the video he spawns third one, and Morko is just can't kill them and died. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc3NATl0xDQ - then he spawned a couple of more sharks on other blue base.
In the previous match happened the same, but he spawned bisons instead of sharks. But enemy team also lost with score 0 - 50.
Isn't it abusing? It's very hard to kill these 3 sharks. And 3 sharks is just example. There was examples with much bigger count that impossible to kill especially when spawns counter exists...
Okay, two more vids. When i was in his team and said that he should play fair, he said that he will kill me in russian (it's in top of messages), and then killed me twice with scrolls:
Sorry for comments spamming. i promise, this is the last video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1CEUgf0SYw where gregor killed everyone. At the end of match he had score 2000 with 40 kills and 1 death.... 2000..... 40 kills in one match where spawns count is 110.... imho it isn't normal. His heart bar even didn't display.... Even Kevin, who is a good knight - can't kill him....
yes it is because he is using the scrolls correctly and becoming strong enough to beat players who didnt bother to use the items ingame. That is like saying red team is unfair for building a tunnel and winning the game when it is blue team's fault for not trying.
Ok PUNK123, as i'm developer, i've read them from mod source code, and share my knowledge in chat in each match. So now everyone spawns own bisons, shark,etc and sometimes matches totally mess. But per your words it's correctly, so everyone is equal right now. And one player can't OP others.
Basically, while punk is right that technically this is all fair because everyone can do it, it's still OP cause the class is straight up better than the rest of the classes. Things like animal summoning were added recently so I'm still balancing them.
The issue is, everytime I nerf something, gregor immediately switches to the next most powerful strategy. Hopefully in a few weeks RuneScribe/Tatoos will be completely balanced but until then, gregor will be going on a rampage till I nerf everything, in which after that I'll probably ban him for blatantly team killing phoenixx.
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