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[370] Lavalord's Rush Tower

Discussion in 'Building Critiques' started by lavalord, May 13, 2012.

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Opinion?

Poll closed May 27, 2012.
  1. Good

    68.0%
  2. Needs Work

    32.0%
  1. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    This is my first building post and i just though i would share my tower with you guys.

    trap.png

    Advantages
    • Quick to make
    • Doesn't require a lot of resources
    • Knights have trouble getting high enough to bash the doors
    • If the trap door is damaged and the enemy is trying to jump over or bash the doors the spike can kill them
    Disadvantages
    • A builder can disable it quite quickly
    • A skilled knight might be able to blast it down with 2-3 bombs. Then again he could just bomb jump over it with 1

    EDIT: Here's VERSION #2

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  2. Creille

    Creille Base Burner

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    quick to make + simple + not many resources = good outpost :)
     
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  3. FAITH

    FAITH Shark Slayer

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    this is a good tower i guess but ive seen many amazing towers in my time of plzying kag that easily eat ur tower up and s**t it out
     
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  4. kebabs44

    kebabs44 Shark Slayer

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    Interesting design but the 4 doors use up 120 wood which could be put to better use.

    Also the voting thingo you put at the top could use more options.
     
  5. Miauw62

    Miauw62 Shipwright

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    Those two doors put me off, you dont ever, ever place two doors directly next to eachother when there is no good place for knights to stand on and reach the doors.
    Its a neat tower, but it limits a bit expadability, and its certainly not bad.
    A 1-thick linepiece is still my favorite tough, its surprising how much punishment it can take, especially when there's a builder to repair it behind.
     
  6. Gofio

    Gofio Gunwobbler x3

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    why? its either good, or it needs more work:
    if it wouldn't be good, it should be improved!
    </br>--- merged: May 13, 2012 12:50 PM ---</br>
    I think its a good design, but to improve it,
    add this:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::spikes_bg::door::bridge::bridge:
    :castle_bg::bridge::door::bridge::bridge:
    :blank::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:
    :blank::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :blank::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    I made some small changes:
    1. I turned the wall spike into a nice teamsafe spike.
    2. I changed the doors into bridges (with background) because they can hide archers.
    3. I added some backwall support, so that it doesnt fall down.
    at the cost of 60 extra wood, and 30 extra stone!
     
  7. delankski

    delankski Horde Gibber

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    However if your dealing with knights , yes the bombs may easily destroy it , but you can add some :castle_bg: for more protection from falling down?
     
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  8. Lexar514

    Lexar514 Shipwright

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    Well, I think it is great for the front line. It can hold it's own against some knights and even if it falls down, it can devastate it's surroundings.
     
  9. BlueLuigi

    BlueLuigi :^) Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Proposal
    Bomb chute where the trap bridge is to go up.
    Move the trap bridge one tile to the left.
     
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  10. killatron46

    killatron46 Cata Whore Donator
    1. MOLEing Over Large Estates - [MOLE]

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    In addition to what Blue Luigi said, you can also raise the doors by 1 tile, right now they're 5 tiles off the ground but boost pads allow you to jump 6 tiles. Also, if you wanted to remove one of the sections of door, you could replace the back with this:


    :blank::blank::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::door::castle_bg::blank::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::door::castle_bg::blank::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::castle_wall::castle_wall::blank::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::castle_wall::door::blank::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::castle_wall::castle_wall::hammer::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::castle_wall::castle_wall::blank::castle_bg:
    :blank::blank::castle_wall::door::blank::castle_bg:
    :bridge::blank::castle_wall::castle_wall::blank::bridge:
    :dirt::dirt_bg::dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt:
    :dirt::dirt_bg::dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt:
    :dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt:

    Cost = 142 stone, 160 wood, +more for ladders if needed.

    When you do this, while the tower is under attack you can repair the blocks by pushing yourself against the door tile you can reach all the stone from the inside. I would also recommend back walling that, because it doesn't require much stone but adds a lot of stability.
     
  11. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    There is a problem with placing platforms next to the doors, when archers fire through them their arrows get glitched and go straight through enemies

    away here's VERSION 2
    untitled.png
     
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  12. Saverous

    Saverous Shopkeep Stealer

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    The door would work well, but people would most likely dig under it, maybe but like a trap behind to reinforce,cause many builder-less knights just dig under it.

    anyway smacking job
     
  13. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    a builder could then theoretically make an simple underground stone wall and problem solved
     
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  14. Sarmane

    Sarmane Go Tau'va yourself San Diego. Donator

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    i have never thought of making simple bomb chutes! these are genius!!!
     
  15. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    lol i have made a spike trap with bomb chutes which i use all the time
    i will post it if u guys want
     
  16. BlueLuigi

    BlueLuigi :^) Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Idea I believe goes to Strathos, just as an FYI.
     
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  17. kebabs44

    kebabs44 Shark Slayer

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    I like a base where you can repair it from the inside, hidden archer port and with collapsible shit. Can you make 1 based on version 2?
     
  18. Sarmane

    Sarmane Go Tau'va yourself San Diego. Donator

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    Strathos is amazing, like the patron demi-god of building- love the work posted-
     
  19. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    i could but you already have one kebabs
     
  20. Bunnyboy

    Bunnyboy Haxor

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    I played around with the design a-bit in sandbox and I think it's really good!... then I started adding some things.

    Good points:
    it has been reinforced
    Shops
    Archer spot
    Stone trap instead of trap bridge and spike (I think the spike works better but its just more fun to collapse a ton of stone on someone's head.
    its not easy for knights to bomb jump

    Bad points:
    You need allot more resources to build it.
    a knight can still take it out pretty quick with 2-3 bombs
    builder can also take it down very quickly (thats why I put a stone trap there.)
    Takes to long to build.
     

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