[748][Gen] Knight Combat Discussion

I am enjoying knight right now, the combat is a lot less clunky and stiff as the classic knight, and a lot more skill based! Controls are a tiny bit more slippery though, and combined with how slippery doors are to use...I've fallen off some buildings here and there.

I do like the directional shield, only issue is the fact you have to aim makes it even harder to defend against archers than it already is...(don't even get me started on the brokenness of archers)

This would be pretty great, because then it would encourage people to build a barracks/defenses as soon as possible instead of building siege weapons, rushing over to the enemy, and wrecking everything. I'd rather knight/archer/barrack rushing more than siege/boat rushing. It is just a lot easier to counter/you will be more likely to have at least one person on your team thinking and building the correct buildings!

 

I find knight is alot more skill orientated.

For all the people saying that jab-spamming is the only way to win, this is false. The only reason people spam commands is because the beta has only been out for a few days and people are not familiar with the new knight mechanics, meaning, they jab spam.

 

I agree, on a seperate note there is an unused file that describes a "tech tree" of sorts, it talks about masonry and carpentry and metal-working and stuff like that. I'm not the best at deciphering the mess of code that is the game files but it's still pretty interesting and I think the game would've been better if they had finished it.

and the only thing more rage-inducing then being on a team of idiots that don't help you rush the enemy is having 1 guy yell "hey everyone get in the boat we have a catapult and a warboat get in we are rushing the enemies" in global chat

 

1. I realize that it's not finished, I just don't think it's too likely that a tech tree will be added in

2. When did I complain about knight combat?

 

Build 752 update: https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/build-752.13661/

I'm kind of concerned by increase jab spam. Now insta-death combo is 1 slash and 2 quick jabs and the enemy is finished.

 

i dont care, jabs were so bad before, they just should decrease stun or buff shield. leave jabs alone now

 

Jabs before the update were fine, people could still jab spam,what's wrong with it now.....

 

thats a lie^

Jabs needed to be faster they were basically useless before, it was slashes or nothing.

People noticed the new jab speed but neglect to notice that from the getgo you could slash someone before they even could get out of stun and kill them in 2 single slashes incredibly easily...

 

oh and i liked the old physics. in alpha the knight could parkor and freerun faster than any realife human
now there is LESS clunk it is just stupid

 

Really? I thought spacebar was nice.
Allows you to run right and light a bomb at the same time.

I like the doubleslash, it's harder to pull off, but it gives good knights advantages over the others.
Unfortunately, I'm one of those "others" =<

 

My points

• Space bar bombs are good
• Running is a little slippery but learn-able. (Might have to start making 3 high doors more...)
• Jabbing is fine, useful but not OP
• Slash and double slash are great. A well timed double slash it murder!
• Cata massacres everything if used right. Maybe a little nerf?
• Building time, or "technologies restricted" time for WAR mode would be a great addition, although it would have to be explained to the player fully.
• All the new directional stuff akes it harder which is great = more skill required
• Archers...
• Kegs kinda fuck shit up way more than they should (they rebuilt as you respawn, ready for the next rush a bit to quickly...I would know I'm a Keg spammer at heart )

 

Jab's should be able to interrupt charging slashes, i mean why bother jabbing when you can slash and slash? The only perks jabbing has is it's fast, which is really good against archers and builders. Compared to slashing, more damage and can stagger enemies plus the reach/momentum. When facing another knight, it's just a dancing game of who times his charge perfectly. Jabs that can interrupt slashes will break that cycle and add more combat strategy when fighting knights.

 

One, the last post was two months ago. Two, it is a mix of timing your slash perfectly and having a better ping than the other knight.

 

I like the idea of bashes but it seems hard to balance, it wouldn't make any sense if jabs went through a shield bash, but if that were the case what would stop me from just bash-spamming to infinity? But either way, knight combat shouldn't be a priority at this point :)

 

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