[939] To build doors, or not to build doors?

I'm not sure if door blocks are any more resilient than normal blocks, but it certainly seems to have a psychological effect. When most people are faced with a wall (early game without kegs) they try to scale it. Likewise some teammates are gifted in that they think trying to run outside to kill a knight as a builder, while he's standing right next to the door is a brilliant idea. Thus letting him in.

While building ways back in without doors can be relatively tricky, it can be done and once the team is used to it it seems to work better. Knights always have to climb, thus attacking from above for greater advantage, special players have less ways of inadvertently letting enemies in, and until kegs start flying around they are less inclined to try attacking the wall itself.

But, of course doors on ground level means our guys getting in, out and through faster. A way to climb back up the wall won't necessarily work while holding the flag.

So doors on outer wall, yea or nay?

 

No. 8 blocks height.

 

Ground level doors = never unless you have no other option. Teammates are fucking stupid and let the enemy in, everytime. "OH GOD THERE'S A KNIGHT OUTSIDE THE STONE WALL AND HE DOESN'T HAVE BOMBS! I HAVE TO BASH HIM TO DEATH BEFORE HE DOES NOTHING AT ALL!" - Noob Builder 01

Monsteri is right, 8 blocks up should be your doors. (Actually I prefer 6, and include a trap block on the inside and outside at 4 blocks height so teammates can get in/out with little difficulty.)

However yes, stone doors are stronger than stone blocks.

 

Ok. I'm just gonna say, a stupid person can let the enemy in doors that are eight blocks up just as easy as they can let them through ground level doors.

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for a structure like this, you can slash up, then push them in with your shield (assuming its a builder or an archer)I've done it many times before.

 

please, please, please.
don't put no entrance to your tower. To many times have I been rushing back with the flag, with only one heart. I just make it to the base, and...
I cant get in. somebody decided that his tower would be a slab of useless stone.

Instead of saying: doors let people in, get rid of them.
say: doors let people in, I should probably find a new way to build my tower.

people like you stifle innovation.

 

>.>... Who would ever do that? <.<

Me thats who

 

No defense best defense.

 

Elevated doors seem to be the way to go here. Ideally with some trap blocks to climb up.

An idea I'm toying with though, is building doors into the base of a thick tower that dont go all the way through.

Something like this:










The idea here is that when the lower part of a tower gets kegged or sapped it ends up like this:










And is pretty tough to repair, plus enemy knights tend to duck inside for shelter, or builders seal themselves in.
This way you end up with something like this:










That you can pop through to repair in response to damage.

Your thoughts?

 

While it is definitely much harder to break doors that are placed in that matter, an archer can break them with boulders by coming in at an angle, either from above or below (tested).

For this to work properly, you'd have to build the door high enough that knights cannot slash the platforms whatsoever. This would require the doors to be around 15 blocks high.

The other problem is trap blocks. Boulders and knight attacks can easily break trap blocks, so you would have to constantly replace the trap ladder if the wall is under attack.

I've gotten it down to breaking this type of door setup in two hits as archer.

 

Yeah, wood's probably the way to go for what I was saying.

 

if you plant doors on the bottom im pretty sure a keg explosion would destroy them through the tower

 

Yeh... It's pretty sad. =/

It's literally impossible to make boulder proof doors that your own team can still pass through both ways.