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Ability To Attack/Defend While Carrying a KEG

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by LostPix, Aug 9, 2013.

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Should Knights Be Able to Attack and Defend or just Defend?

  1. Attack and Defend

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  2. Defend

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  3. Neither

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  1. JoshTG

    JoshTG Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    NO, kegs are op, you should NOT be able to do anything but carry it, we dont need one man armys plowing teams with kegs while fighting
     
  2. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    Agree with people who say keg should completely stop ability to attack/defend AND hamper movement.

    I don't even want to hear people arguing the that you "strap it to your back so your hands are free," because since when were we going for realism with KAG? Knights can float with a sheet of metal much?

    Kegs can bring down a sturdy tower in one blast easily. To use one, your timing should have to be perfect, and your teammates should have to protect you.
     
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  3. Auburn

    Auburn Prepare Yourself! Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Tester
    1. SharSharShar - [SHARK]

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    Nighthawk has the right idea, except that 2 archers can easily bring down a kegger as soon as they open the door, a knight should at least be able to put up his shield while on the ground to block arrows, but nothing more. NO shield gliding, NO attacking
     
  4. sinnertie

    sinnertie Ministry of Hatred Forum Moderator Donator Tester
    1. PumpkinStars - [Pk#] - Inactive

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    In my opinion even that shouldn't be available for them since kegs do massive damage as Nighthawk said and can take down whole tower, so it shouldn't be that easy to get close to enemy's base and require good teamwork to succeed.
     
  5. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    if you guys know you can actually attack while carrying a keg now, there is no animation, just carry a keg and walk up to some grass or tree and left click.
     
  6. sinnertie

    sinnertie Ministry of Hatred Forum Moderator Donator Tester
    1. PumpkinStars - [Pk#] - Inactive

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    Yeah, it was mentioned by Hawxx on last page:
    And I think it should be removed as I stated above.
     
  7. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
    1. SharSharShar - [SHARK]

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    It's a bug. If it doesn't even have an animation, then it needs to be fixed.
     
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  8. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    What if instead of being able to attack or defend we could throw the keg like boulder to push someone out of the way? This idea I have seems very fair to be honest.
     
  9. JoshTG

    JoshTG Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    they could just slash the keg and brake it....
     
  10. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
    1. SharSharShar - [SHARK]

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    why are you trying so hard to change the way you can interact with kegs. you need a team, or teamwork to help you get it across to where you want it delivered. you're a squishy guy carrying a potentially game-changing barrel of fun on your back.
     
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  11. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    Because making kegs damage things on impact is just a line of code and of course it will be better to toss it at someone instead of dropping it, think about it, toss it at someone then quickly kill that player, way better than all the suicide bombers rampaging around, and the last point, if they damage the keg because they can even if you carry it, it will be way better to toss it away while it's lit at someone again, using keg as a bait is a perfect example because everyone knows carrier is defenseless and the only way he can get away quickly is leaving it somewhere, the guy runs up to you and then toss it into his face, stun him and kill him then move on.

    If these points don't change your thinking then you're just looking for shitty excuses for the sake of making them.

    Edit:

    Also teamwork is dropped a lot in the beta because other players are unreliable, I actually want to witness some badass rambo guy rip his way through the enemy army and devastate the other team, because moments like this was what made the classic amazing.
     
  12. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
    1. SharSharShar - [SHARK]

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    at the moment, you're trying to say we combine the deadly throw of a boulder and the explosive power of a keg (which is pretty fcking big). lit kegs can and will explode most of the time when jab or slashed and kill everyone in the immediate area. you don't seem to understand the point that you are fucking squishy when carrying a keg. it's a feature; you can either carry a keg without being able to defend, but have the chance to open pathways or destroy buildings, or you can defend others carrying that potentially game-changing token. if you toss it to leave behind, then damn, that's your fault.

    Ie i still see a shit load of teamwork in beta (you must be on some shitty servers or not playing with some friends). you can still rip through the enemy army single-handed, but not while carrying a keg on your back.

    (if you legit have to say how i don't agree with your points is "shitty excuses", then you're just a baddie.)
     
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  13. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    Now you're just being pretentious and you miss the point and logic in your post, kegs are heavy therefore they should damage players on impact, for example throw the lit keg off the hill down on wall of sort and see someone get squished by it, that's more like it right.
     
  14. Raelian

    Raelian Bison Rider

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    The whole rambo idea sounds like a big middle finger to balance and what little teamwork remains. In which case, I'd be against it. I like KAG too much to see it turn in to a one-man army game.

    Mind you, I'm not against people who have skill and can take on multiple less skilled opponents but suggesting mechanics that help you solo stuff? Especially on items that can take down whole bloody towers? Yeah, no.

    I thought KAG was a team based game where you worked together, not solo everything with 4 bombs and a keg strapped to your back. Yeah, sure, teamwork isn't easy but the reason why people don't bother learning to work as a team is because they're to busy getting ideas of going rambo and the only time these said rambos win is when they're against complete newbies, otherwise they end up effed in the ass so hard you can store a keg in there.

    It's this kind of mentality that kills any attempt at working as a team when trying to take down towers and fortresses.
     
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  15. Galen

    Galen Haxor Staff Alumni Donator

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    Deleted the last 5 posts due to not being on topic. Stick to the topic, or I'll lock this thread/warn you.
     
  16. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
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    i don't throw logic into it because 1) it's a game 2) this is the game where i can toss two bombs at my feet and fly 50 feet into the air and land perfectly fine. the ability to solo with keg, nevertheless be able to throw it like a boulder at people and kill them is a horrible idea.
     
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  17. Brandon816

    Brandon816 Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    If I could say so, it seems like you are basing your whole argument on whether or not there will be players around who are both capable and willing to defend a keg carrier. You would like to insure that you can feel useful on a team that isn't really up to par on teamwork. However, I would have to ask why you feel that it should be possible to "Rambo" a whole team?

    Anyway, I am fine with defending while carrying a keg, so long as the keg remains in a position where an archer can shoot and detonate it if you aren't willing to anticipate incoming shots and dodge them, as well as giving your teammates time to defend you against enemy knights. Should help out a bit against poor teamwork.
     
  18. steve_jobs

    steve_jobs Bison Rider

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    What...
    Of course not.
    Imagine how op it would be.
    It completely disregards thee need for teamwork, people.
    Bomb jumping with a keg? No way.
     
  19. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    What, when you can't even do it.
     
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