Admin abusing

They didn't fall at all.

Again, I'm unaware at all of hackers having the ability to do this, if that is the case, and any hackers have been seen doing this, then that throws it all out the wnidow.

Also that back and forth was after me asking him.
I also asked first who was able to do that, who indeed? Mods/Admins on the server and the KAG Guard, correct?

Now if you know of this being possible via hacking than that throws it all out the window, which was the point I was making, which is why I was asking at first.

I also apologized for saying exactly that right there because of his responses to my original question.

If it wasn't him then who? It's happened several times, and that's what I'd want to know, as it's annoying, if it is indeed a hacker, then who? Is it possible currently via hacking? I've yet to hear of it, I see speedhackers, and I've heard of unlimited health (which seems easy enough for any script kiddie), but haven't yet heard of any 'hackers' map editing.

Foxodi also states there that in that particular instance it was an admin doing it.

My point is why? There are next map votes which are typical, instead people just edit the map to let it go that way?
If the goal was to finish the map without wasting 20 minutes, they could have changed to the next map.
The builder had a chance and it was removed fairly easily by editing to help the opposite team (in this case mine, as Foxodi was the last person on our team).

As for the 'blocks dropping', what does that have to do with anything? Never said anything about blocks dropping at all. I mentioned the block being made, then erased (when no one was nearby at all and the only one to explain lag was a knight who can't break the stone, and as stated by other people here it was an admin), and the other instance I was the only one nearby and still not at the ladder when it was removed, with no one else within 10 blocks of it in any direction at all.
I've seen admins place blocks before on other servers, and it was the same sort of thing as when I've seen ladders removed that way previously.

Could it have been a hacker? Sure, if that's a thing yet, if you know of it go ahead and let me know then I'll just say I'm outright wrong, but otherwise if there is no hack for that known or otherwise, you go with the simplest answer.

Again I'm still seeing responses as if I'm out to ruin his name or something, I'm not, I want to know how this happened that's all.

 

Neither of these blocks in question were attacked though, and no one was around to attack them at all.

 

Okay, in this case I'll just keep watching out when I see this and take a screenshot of the players online when it does, if it lets me. F4 doesn't seem to work for me, at least didn't yesterday when this happened, I had to use F12 (Steam overlay to screenshot), and the picture came out messed up, couldn't read it.

Again, sorry Strathos if it wasn't you who did anything.
It would be nice if anyone else who sees this could help actually identify what's happening, it's been confusing the hell out of me. That stone at least two people have said in here was an admin, if they're sure of that then that explains one use.

Going to assume you didn't read the whole thread, and no disrespect to KAG Guard, but will be surprised how far people go even in real life in terms of trust and power before they prove they are capable and willing to abuse it.

I've never seen blocks break for no reason. Noted as a glitch then and moved on, if this is the case and it's a glitch, again sorry to Strathos for accusing him of this.
I've been shot by archers through walls, but only doors so far, and it's only if the tip of their arrow is close to it or the door was opened and then closed, never an actual stone wall so far.

 

Hmm.
What Neat said is absolutely true - Suki sullied this whole discussion from the beginning.

However, Luigi has taken the time to make a calm and reasoned argument for what went down. I believe that he believes his account of events, if nothing else.
I personally doubt any wrong-doing on Strathos' part and I would be very interested in uncovering what exactly happened (be it a glitch or otherwise), but there is sadly no way for us to do that.

 

There have been no perma bans.
As far as I can see Strathos just kicked the two of you, which would have resulted in a 10 minute ban.

 

I would be in favour of removing guards' access to the editor.

This might be tricky though, as MM & Geti would have to decouple the map editor from rcon or the guards from rcon or something like that... As map editor is granted to those with rcon and guards are currently automatically logged into rcon.

 

We want to decouple the editor from guards, it's just a PITA as Shadlington has said.

Strathos is also one of the more legit guards that we have - some of them aren't so trustworthy and I'd certainly believe that this kind of thing happened with them - and has been playing as part of the community for a good long while. I don't have time to investigate this fully though, so I'll leave it up to Shadlington, Furai and Strathos to decide if they want to keep looking into it.