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Admin abusing

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SUKIDESUYO, Oct 27, 2011.

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  1. AHrEJl

    AHrEJl Shopkeep Stealer

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    It's very sad that you have no control over Russian community and do not understand what they say in Russian,which tells your Russian KAG GUARD. Even if he does not have the right to ban in the game database. It is still a threat.What is not worthy of respect. I certainly have no right you specify.But developers need to hire Russian-speaking person that would talk with the Russian community. Otherwise, there will continue to be outrageous.
     
  2. Neat

    Neat King of the Dead Donator Tester

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    That was the entire point of making Frank a kag guard, but it backfired completely. The problem is we cannot gauge someones trustworthiness if they're speaking russian because we can't talk and get to know them. This will always be a dilemma until we can find someone. For the meantime you'll have to live with the english and french guards.
     
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  3. Hapistorique

    Hapistorique KAG Guard Tester

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    Well, French guards are not hired by the developpers either, but we are still trusted (right ? :D)
     
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  4. Neat

    Neat King of the Dead Donator Tester

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    Well the two french guards we have, you and kiro, we have talked to and deemed trustworthy :)
     
  5. EdgeWing

    EdgeWing Shopkeep Stealer

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    ^ Yeah that's true i not going to answer what you said though XD

    but maybe i agree , maybe i don't , My server don't work for some reason
     
  6. Shadlington

    Shadlington THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    What Neat said.
    Frank was pretty much made a guard because he was the only Russian we were aware of that spoke decent English.
    It backfired, clearly.
    Trust is normally the biggest factor in how we choose guards - we made a mistake by relaxing that rule with Frank just so we could have someone to represent the Russian community. We won't be making that mistake again.

    Also, the devs haven't hired any of us. We're all just volunteers doing what we can to help out the community, for free.
     
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  7. AHrEJl

    AHrEJl Shopkeep Stealer

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    1. On myserver,I find it easier to recruit some admins than to trust KAG GUARDS. And if I do not like it, I can always change the rcon password. Rather than wait a month or more, once they take away rights from a person who has lost my trust.
    2. The fact that you are working for free is a mistake. Because sooner or later there is again some people who will lose trust. And when a man gets money to work, albeit minor, it encourages him working better. Than to work for free. Fact of loss cash income is a good argument to work well.
     
  8. Shadlington

    Shadlington THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    That's fine. It is the server owner's choice as to how they wish to admin their server. In fact, I generally recommend that server owners appoint their own admins in addition to allowing the kag guards - the guards are just backup really.

    It is better to allow guards than to deny them however.
    I believe in your case you came to distrust the guards because of Frank, so perhaps you will consider allowing global mods again?
     
  9. AHrEJl

    AHrEJl Shopkeep Stealer

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    Maybe later. Indeed, topic dedicated to not only Frank. So KAG GUARDS lost not only my trust.
     
  10. Neat

    Neat King of the Dead Donator Tester

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    I honestly doubt mm and geti can even afford to pay us a minor fraction to be honest. I wouldn't ask for it either.

    As for the rules on your server, it's your server to do as you please. We're here for servers that don't have their own mods, only a few server owners.
     
  11. Foxodi

    Foxodi KAG Guard Tester

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    Well since the latest update they've been racking in $500 a day :) But yeah, paying for game moderators for an indie game sounds unnecessary.
     
  12. EdgeWing

    EdgeWing Shopkeep Stealer

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    Agreed and Neat did you see me on the Solar server also i discovered a bug with stone
     
  13. Pizza

    Pizza Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    I didn't expect any of the guards to abuse their powers. I still trust them since Frank is the only one who did abuse his powers, the other guards have nothing to do with that.
     
  14. AHrEJl

    AHrEJl Shopkeep Stealer

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    Rent server + buy premium(game) = use editor = GOOD
    KAG GUARD + EDITOR = EVIL
     
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  15. Pizza

    Pizza Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    I think i agree with this, i do not think kag guards need to have acces to the editor. Im not a guard myself though so im not sure if i can be sure.
     
  16. Shadlington

    Shadlington THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    Aye, as has already been discussed, we'd like to decouple guards from the map editor, but its all tied up together at the moment, and will be difficult to separate.

    When there are things like zombies to work on it sadly falls down the priority list.
     
  17. Noburu

    Noburu Dirty, DRUNK, Hillbilly Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Considering that is isnt that big a problem, I see nothing wrong with it being low on the priority list.
     
  18. Jackard

    Jackard Base Burner

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    Same thing happened to H&H; a prominent russian player was invited to the developer inner circle to represent his community and share their concerns. It ended up backfiring on us.

    I don't think very highly of the russian pvp community and I recognize some of the same players here.
     
  19. SpitfireXero

    SpitfireXero KAG Guard Tester

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    I don't think I've played with a single Russian player and when it comes down to it, I don't need to understand Russian to see that someone is breaking the rules. But.. maybe they're plotting something down in that Russian forum. Oh no.
     
  20. Contrary

    Contrary The Audacious Paramount of Explosive Flight Donator Tester

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    some cold war shit
     
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