Archer Nerfs

Okay first of all archers should not be in places where knights can reach them att all like in a building firing from windows and on top oh buildings guarded by doors, builders and knights.

 

So you're saying archers shouldn't have fun?

 

Every action has a good and bad reaction.
You want "In your face Fun" as an archer, so dont expect knights to tiptoe your way to say "Here i am SHOOT ME :D"

 

True! That was I said.. 2 archers vs 1 Knight..One archer charge the other one shoot a arrow and boom + 1 pts

 

move+jump+shield

Why knights can play solo and archer cant?Why ?

 

Because it's not supposed to be able to solo. Archers are support. Yes, some players can still do epic damage alone, but that's not the point.
Heck, I've even seen builders solo their way into a castle, killing three knights and an archer, capture the flag, and escape. No joke. However, "Playing Solo" isn't something that should be done anyway, as this is a team game. Sure, if you get an opportunity, go for it. But don't go seeking a solo experience. Anyone.

 

Knights playing solo? Not quite possible, as any archer can make him turtle forever, and a builder can place 4 stone blocks, and the knight will never get past. This is a team game, where you need someone of every class to be succesful. It is true, that knights are the meat of the army, but anything else would drstically ruin game health. Let me give an example:
Archers are the main unit: Knights feel useless, as they only can move with a constant shield up, all they do is defend their archers and builders. No glory for knights then.
Builders are main unit: Good luck moving anywhere, archers and knights, as this will turn into a competetive building game, where skybridges, walls, and catapults is all there would be in the game then.
The 2 scenarios, is if the knight gets nerfed/the other classes gets buffed. I prefer knight meatshields as the main unit.

 

From my view as a knight, 90% of archers tend to flee at the sight of a knight if they don't have backup. As for builders, if you're in the open, I will always solo with enough bombs to make it to the flag and back, easily overcoming shorter structures. But your points about Archers as the main unit is very valid. When building the initial frontal defense, I make sure to maximise the efficiency of the archers. When done right, it creates a bullet hell for incoming knights, and they need to work perfectly as a team to get a foothold at the base of the defenses, and there is nearly no chance of bringing in builders.

 

Wow this debate is still going on? MM has said its NOT going back to the way it was before.

 

More like Knight using his shield + Archer =... still Knight + Archer... then, it moves to Close range. See your own scheme,

 

You need nothing more than two trees or a little hill to kill the knight.

 

Agreed.

 

To be honest, its about skill
- skilled archer beats unskilled knight, as they will jump around and the knight won't be able to block all shots
- unskilled archer dies to skilled knight, as the knight will manage to get in close as the archer isn't using their mobility well probably
- two skilled players have a fair chance of killing each other

yes there are tactics an archer can use to try to kill a knight, jumping round them, climbing trees etc. and yes, there are tactics a knight can use, like shielding and jumping also. In the end it is fairly balanced I think and its whoever has more skill, and the lay of the land (which is a builders job to make it favor their team)

I'm mainly a builder so I'm not good at either (I'm worse than useless as a knight!), but this is the situation as it appears to me.

As to arrow caps, I think something like 70 is good - any archer who can be bothered to sit hitting a tree for 70 arrows instead of supporting their team deserves it, but it stops you being able to collect arrows of corpses and then sit there sniping forever.

Also, as a builder, what exactly do you want as an archer-friendly building?