ArL - Arthurian League

It's undeniable that ping does heavily influence the outcome of games, though, for better or for worse. It's also a clear statement that POWER can also undoubtably field a team for a US match with generally pretty damn strong ping, whereas if other clans were forced to play in AUS then they would generally have absolutely shit ping. The US is essentially a middle ground between AUS and EU, but it seems logical in any case for the final to be hosted as close to in between the two teams assigned 'home' areas, if possible.

 

Bragging rights? You seem pretty good at exercising those.

 

I don't believe it's fair to prohibit a clan from playing on their home turf, because they have international players. It is not the fault of the clan with international players. Its the fault of the other clans. We may have the Finals in another place, but by no means should you be disallowing us to use Australian servers, That would be extremely unfair to us considering everyone else gets to use their home servers. And by no means is playing on an Australian server an auto win, ping advantage is ping advantage, but that is true no matter where you go, we dislike playing on EU servers, because we have bad ping. But we will never whine or complain and say its unfair, because of ping. We lose/tie because our players are not doing the best they could and because the other team is doing better. The whole reason that home game away game was decided was to give each team a fair chance at having ping advantage. Just because we have international players doesn't mean we should have to play in some one else home server for our home game. If POWER is first than we will choose as we please, I don't expect any clan to sacrifice their position to play on their home server. So why should we have to? - Again this does not necessarily mean it will be in Australia, but this is would be an extremely biased decisions that would also prohibit further Australian clans which I know many would like to join next season. We are in fact an Australian clan if no one has noticed more than 60% of our players are Australian. If you have issues with ping suck up your Sectionalism views and recruit people from around the world their is nothing wrong with having people from different parts of the world and no one should be punished for expanding their clan beyond one region.

 

I think the issue currently lies with the fact that you are all saying it's going to be one match. If the rules haven't been decided for the finals match I think they should be discussed. To avoid conflict with using Australian server or any server for that mater I suggest the following.

The clan with the most points chooses the first server.
Both clans play best 3/5 on that server or 2/3 if we want to keep it shorter
The clan with the second most points chooses the second server
Both clans play best 3/5 on that server
If each clan wins once, then they move to a server chosen by neither party.
The exception being if both clans choose to play on the same server.

case 1) POWER chooses Australian, and wins, xCube chooses American, and win and it goes to a European match.
case 2) BOW chooses European, and wins, Pk choose European and wins and it goes to European match.

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There is no absolutely perfect solution and this is because we don't all live with in 150 mile radius of each other. If we did this would be amazingly simple and great, but I definitely don't believe the solution lies with excluding a group of players.

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Also just a point on fair gameplay, As Freddex mentioned, I don't think it matters, you can have a fair game in any country, and if that was true we should exclude Europe because we don't get good ping there. I think the best solution is just have it happen on both teams servers. Again reiterating my point excluding a group of players is not the solution, I believe excluding Australia is just brought on by bias, I would ask why should I have to play on a European server? same reason you have to play on an Australian server, because in the end it evens out.

 

It's not bullshit, your excluding a large player base just, because you want to. And I don't think everyone falls into those categories you wrote. Either way the whole point of what I suggested is perfectly fair. I didn't say that we should only have it on Australian did I? I think the idea of only having one match is flawed.

 

So you think it's fair that the team with most points doesn't get to select where they play? No matter what you say Aoi it's not fair to exclude a large player base and it is large. It isn't our issue that we have players out side of Australia, why should we be forced to play else where, I see it as an issue of the other clans that are unwilling to recruit Australians. No reason that we should be punished, And if you think that no effort goes into our Australian matches than you're wrong, it still takes plenty of work. I don't think ping is as much of a problem as everyone makes it out to be. Or maybe we are just to used to it, we played for nearly 9 hours last Saturday, we switched between an American server and an Australian server playing Australian vs NA POWER and guess what we still had fun and both sides still did well. Stop bitching about ping and suck it up. It is possible to fight with ping and it is possible to get players who have low ping. I know it's not ideal, but if it was ideal we would all be in the same location. Again it's not exactly fair to just tell us oh, bummer you can't use half your players or a server just, because nobody likes, you. Suck it up, you can play. I will play in Australia and have fun, Australians can play in America and have fun, it's not impossible to believe or do.

 

Lol, I think you failed to read my post properly Aoi. I think your also just refusing to see my point. Suck it up and play with bad ping. It's not our fault that we have international players and we shouldn't be punished for it, just because you can handle playing with bad ping, "get better scrub." You still neglected to see the fact that I suggested a perfectly appropriate way to deal with this. Get over your self. You can't just neglect and entire side of a team and the potential for other clans that want to join ArL.

 

I'm getting frustrated with you because you failed to read stuff and you continually call what i say bullshit. It's not bullshit, basically the way I see is that people don't want to play POWER on POWER's turf because their haters. Please just get over your self and take my reasonable suggestion that is fair. We aren't taking free points you can beat us.

 

I have about 200 ping on EU servers and about 233 on Aussie servers. You can't really split ArL like that I don't think it would ever work nor would it be fun. And still I'm not saying anyone personally has to play on a server. Everyone can expand their clan to include multiple regions punishing one clan for having players from different places is bad. There is a large AUS player base and several other AUS clans that would like to get into ArL why should they be excluded, I think the home away system works perfectly fine and there is nothing wrong with it. Why do you think it's bad in the case of the finals?