BUILD 1215 - Rebalance and Fix Central

Yeah Rayne, why the hell are you here, you... admin... of... the whole forum...

Man, what a mystery. I'm stumped.

 

Well after playing a few matches with the new update, I'd say that the majority of the knight changes were justified, especially the ones regarding gravity/wall climbing. I feel the jab stun is a bit of a 50/50 so far. It does add to the sort of "circle of power" you mentioned but I also feel it can be a bit abused especially if it's a large number of people doing it at once. This remains to be seen though, I still generally fall into the camp of "I disagree" people :).

The slash breaking of shields not lasting as long has had no noticeable effect on combat as I've seen it so far. Can still just as easily beat the crap out of people with slash spams (in my experience anyway). The reduced stun range of archers I feel helps with balance. It made it a bit easier to take on large groups of spamming archers trying to charge. No comment on special arrow spam yet.

Drills being builder only I feel definitely helps with balance and discourages drill rushing. Also it seems like it's a bit of a 2nd weapon for builders you can buy now since it does do a decent amount of damage for a short period of time.

The map borders, I feel, finally added purpose to tall buildings (along with no wall climbing). However, I also feel this may turn some maps into an inevitable stalemate of epic proportions.

Platforms - good job, mines - good job, spawning timer- good job, No digging zone - good job,

 

You're arguing with oldfag admins, I'm pretty sure they know a thing or two about techniques.

 

I know that the devs have always been reluctant to nerf archers, since their glass cannon nature brings about constant complaints from archer players who feel that they die too easily. But if you want somewhere to start, how about you fix the fact that carried kegs get launched 100 feet at any range by a single arrow from the front, regardless of shield status?

 

http://youtu.be/wDmIRY3Zveo?t=5s

 

I find climbing walls to be extremely frustrating. Even a simple wall around the flag is a monumental effort.

UNLESS you flip around and climb the wall backwards It seems like going at walls backwards isn't altered much, I can still wallrun just as high when facing away from the wall, maybe a tiny bit lower. But forward climbing is extremely annoying now. Putting two layers on top of a flag makes climbing the flag really retarded, and three is just impossible.

 

I will no longer be able to use my superheroic scaling skills to get over almost any structure
Good stuff Geti, most of it seems pretty necessary

 

So a few minutes testing out the new platform on sandbox and I have this to say:

If you put stone backwalling on the new platforms they're still virtually fire proof.


Also...

I typically shoot a regular arrow where I want my fire (and bomb) arrow to go, then tap the inventory button to my special arrow before shooting it.
I also have bad aim, but I'm struggling to imagine why you would want to do that.

At any rate, triple shots have more than enough slack time between shots to switch back to your fire arrows if you really want to get them out a bit faster.

 

i feel like this update made knight combat all about charging forward like a dumb knight go to actually no having phantom swords and needing to place your slashes precisely, defensive knights are getting a well needed buff from this. overall this is a really good update and anyone that hates it i pity you.

 

ive never heard of any of these people, and ive been here for a while at least. im pretty agreeable w/ most of these changes. people were abusing the wall glitch (which admittedly took more time than it should have), and laggy momentum slashing was the absolute shittiest thing.

Spoiler: ie

 

For all those missing retardclimbing, I recommend Transformice to you.

Also yeah, there was some "skill" (as in, a thing you had to grind down) you had to have to get it work, but when you got it to work it was completely broken.
just lol@Fuzzle believing he's anywhere above "Reasonably bad" tier.


additional lol@people threatening to leave because they cannot abuse knight all day every day anymore.
Get over yourself, snowflake MLG warriors.

 

I'm kind of conflicted over this update.

I'm really going to miss my unobstructed slashing. I guess I'll have to adapt to this frikkin painful jab shizzle. While some of the nerfing is positive, i.e. the removal of infinite wall climb, the inability of a knight to scale say a six or so block high wall by way of slash+jumping etc is kind of fatiguing and annoying more than anything else. This emphasis on teamwork (an element of gameplay that is not always applicable) has really sacrificed some key individual functionality, and I've sort of found myself questioning whether this update has struck the right balance between the two. also the archer aiming mechanism has gotten really small and it makes me feel uncomfortable

All in all though it's a step in the right direction and i'd just like express my thanks to the developers for continuing with their active support/maintenance/refining of the game.

 

the issue is people dont like the game as it is and you all dont care if people leave then there is a reason this game has such a small playerbase