Devlog KAG Build 2146 - Siege Changes, Fixes and Improvements for Modding

Honestly, no idea. It's been around for a very long time and I've had a look at fixing it more than once with no luck. MM wrote it off as unfixable/"cursed" shortly after steam launch. I'll see about pushing it back up the list though.

Yeah I don't have a problem with that.

 

I've noticed weird things with the builder but can't tell since which build this happens. First, you can somehow lay doors on the space you occupy (2x2 tiles), it's quite awkward as I was used to take that space as a red-area for laying blocks easily around my character. Secondly, somehow and can't understand exactly why this happens, when changing fast between blocks and laying the new one selected fast, it places the previous one. I had to adapt to this new pace, as I was placing stone blocks constantly everywhere. Don't know if somebody else suffered from this.

 

For the first one, it's likely that latency also the culprit? ie you place the block, then move into the space? Or are you placing blocks in the 2x2 space you stand in while you're standing still? There's some bonus ambiguity here because you'll usually be occupying a 3x2 or 3x3 area of tiles, not just a 2x2 since you dont move "on the grid" and can overlap partial tiles.

Fuzzle basically covered "why" for the placing a previously-selected block - changing things client-side would actually be better but it's all handled through the existing grid menu command-based behaviour, which requires a bounce off the server; it's one of those legacy things that requires quite a bit of working backwards to fix (KAG is riddled with these things, honestly). I suffer it regularly though as a laggy australian.

 

Also a recent (maybe semi-related) development is constant phasing into the ground. Going through blocks if the server is lagging has always been a possibility, but this seems like a slightly different issue. For one, it happens basically every time you jump or land, but you don't actually go through the blocks. It just sort of rubberbands you around and makes it incredibly annoying to move around.

 

This has not been my recent experience at all - can you give more info? Are you on a close server, how's your framerate, is your net graph stable, is it happening to other people on the server, does it happen in sandbox or only online, etc.
The relevant change for this was over 3 months ago.

 

Yeah I think it does happen simultaneously with other people on the server, but the servers aren't like that all the time. It's more like the server decides to enter quicksand mode for a little while, everyone sticks to the ground until it stops, and then things go back to normal. This can happen several times a round. Doesn't affect my framerate, but I'll look at the net graph next time it happens. I haven't seen it in singleplayer

 

I've noticed this happening too. Initially, I thought it was only occurring on servers which I have high ping on but it occasionally happens to me on AUS servers too (with 33 ping). It's never happened right after a match has been reset iirc so that might give you a hint towards the issue.

Another thing I've noticed for a very long time is that you seem to get stunned for much longer than usual if you get fall stunned while having spawn immunity. I'm not sure if this is intended and I cannot see why it would.

 

Aye my first isssue depends on movement, but it doesn't need much to happen.

Edit: it happens when you try to kay a block and you're not aligned with the grid:

Spoiler

You can imagine, running away from a knight, lay a dor on my back to block him, but I push him towards me instead.

 

This in particular is exacerbated by ping to the server and clientside physics, but I get what you mean. I'll have a look at it today.

 

I can't imagine how the 2 fixes would play out ingame @Fuzzle , and it's not about my preferences :> I would rather have it how it was some builds ago (sorry i can't tell since when this happens), a way with which I was more comfortable with. I mean, I've got to adapt myself dozens of times, if the issue is important enough to require a proper solution it's not because it bothers me.