Game is dying

In theory, if we can have an endless supply of steam sales, the game shall be trapped in a loop of a huge boost and slow decline forever
this is the true way
seduce people into buying the game when it's cheap as shit

 

I play the game for like...2 years..I think. And I never got bored, because this comunity makes KAG a difrent game every single day, if it is by all the mods or the hilarious circuntances on vanilla, KAG is the only one of its kind and I'll be playing it till the game (or myself) die. Wich will never happen becuz Im frekin immortal. And for the ones who say the game is decaying - gtfo, because youre not enjoying it anymore and stop occupying server slots, since pple are paying for actual players to use it.

 

So let me see if I got this straight...

You come onto the forums and claim that a game is dying. I've seen you saying shit like that multiple times over the past few months. Someone points out that you're being a whiny bitch about everything, and you start getting all Rodney King indignant on everyone.

So in summary, you make a thread about something stupid, you're an antagonizing dick to anyone who disagrees, and when people call you out you cry for someone to lock the thread.

PS:

Are you really using the tired old, "don't like it, don't watch/look/read it," defense? You gotta realize that the internet isn't a fucking garbage dump. You are putting your thoughts out there, in the public eye, not as a private message to a friend or something... As such, your posts are subject to criticism and scrutiny. You can't just dump your shit in front of everyone and expect everyone to accept it, just as you can't take a shit on someone's living room carpet and expect them to clean it up.

 

No, Leo has full right to being irritated that his servers arent filling up; he fucking pays for them. This game consistently dies down after a sale and drops to its usual 80-150 playerbase. You do not seem to understand; it isnt whiny or stupid to wonder how a game that sold 180k copies can have this playerbase. I do not know if you remember, but this game has been in the humble bundle, had a steam sale, and even had a gog release. After all of this, the playerbase has spiked and fell to its usual. It isnt complaining to wonder if this game is worth the effort.
Also, I do believe it is worth saying: You do not even play kag release.

(OMFG I HAD TO REWRITE THAT SO MANY TIMES SO I WOULDN'T END UP WITH WARNING POINTS FOR FLAMING UGH)

 

At first I was going to disagree with punk, but his post gave me new insight. I hope that they give Trench run more care than they've given KAG because 180k sales and less than 200 active players per day is just sad. The game is fantastic in many ways no doubt but the small problems that could've been fixed would've greatly improved the number of players that would still be playing. Please learn from your mistakes and make trench run a kick ass game.

 

Uh punk it's not like leo has to pay for his servers, everyone has the right to be irritated at anything but it doesn't make sense for him to be irritated at the game dying. It's his choice to pay money for servers, for servers in a dying/small community game

Being a game developer doesn't mean you HAVE to keep updating a game you started making 4 years ago, and PR like shit to get more people

"zomg TBS u dont play video gaem"
It's not like Leo actively plays the game. He rarely plays and not even for long

 

So much hate against someone that for almost 2 years now has spent a LOT of time and money to provide this community with top quality servers. My last word on this is that when I started my servers there was an average of around 300 players playing at any given time. How many are there now ? I am thinkin of shutting down my servers and go on with my life. So long and thanks for all the fish. Leo signing out.

 

Kinda just me responding to condescension from the person i quoted/ explaining that the playerbase has fluctuated in the past

Caring about something is a legitimate reason for being upset.

 

The one thing that I can definitely recommend that would increase player retention is a better tutorial (perhaps several that teach different things: basics, items, advanced combat, building etc.). I played the tutorial when I first started playing and it really isn't that helpful imo. The only reason that I had any idea wtf was going on at all when I first started was because I had a friend who explained everything to me. It's a big turn off to not know what is happening, why you are dying etc. and imo that's why people stop playing. The combat and strategies in KAG while fundamentally based on simple stuff is incredibly complex and new players coming onto a server just have no idea what is happening.

EDIT: This should probably have gone in the player retention thread but that issue seemed to come up here so....

 

This reminds me of this conversation I had the other day with someone. I don't really remember who it was I was kind of exhausted and was lacking some sleep or something. I don't really remember. Well the conversation started with how we could resurrect KAG. We talked about many feasible things but we both agreed upon two actions that could guarantee instant results.

We could get Geti to sell his soul or chop off his hair and then sacrifice it to MM on an alter on the night of the new moon. Honestly the two are so similar it might as well be the same thing. We could probably get about a good hundred or so more people willing to play the game if Geti sells his soul. I hear that you can sell souls on the internet nowadays.

Anyways if Geti sacrificed his hair to MM I think that would give MM enough reason to add achievements or something. It's about motivation really. MM being the business man he is he needs at least three kilos of Geti's hair before he is satisfied. So after this conversation with this person I contacted Geti and proposed this magical solution.

I was talking with Geti and he was telling me how he was planning on shaving his whole body down and covering himself with some hair growth shampoo so that he can get a fresh start. He went on this whole tangent about how it was necessary to shave because it's like farming or something and the new crop needed all the nutrients or something to grow. At this point I figured Geti had too much tofu or was going into protein withdrawals or something. He was acting a little off. I think he was anxious or something as he was not yet ready to shave.

So anyways I spent the next hour or two trying to convince Geti that maybe shaving was not the way to go. Shearing seemed like the best option in my mind at the time as sheep are sheared not shaved. Geti seemed to agree with my assessment and told me he would be back and he had to buy some shears or something. At this point I was so tired I don't even remember what else was said. But that is besides the point.

The person I was talking to said that the point is is that Geti needs to sacrifice his hair or his soul to resurrect KAG. Who cares if he has manic depression or loses his soul. As long as KAG is alive again any loss of Geti's well being is justified. I disagreed with him but it ended up being for naught as he was dead set in his ways of forcing Geti to pursue the dark arts for his own enjoyment. I ended up telling Geti later that Chobani was a shitty Greek yogurt and that maybe selling his soul was the better option of the two. We agreed that shaving his hair was not the best course of action and all we are waiting for now is a buyer for Geti's soul. I agreed to be the witness for transaction during the ritual only if Geti stopped eating Chobani.

 

Dude, relax. Leo is absolutely allowed to voice his opinion, but so am I. I'm not referring to Leo's servers, and neither was he. He was referring to the fact that EVERY server is, "empty," and that the game is, "dead." I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just saying that the game is far from dead. And yes, I don't play the release version of KAG AT THE MOMENT, because the computer I have right now is a piece of shit and I can't run all that many games because it's an antiquated piece of shit.

Who is hating on anyone? And who cares how long you've been in the community or spent money on things like servers? It was something YOU wanted to do, nobody forced you. I think you're being a little over dramatic now.

 

Nah stick with something long enough and you're totally allowed to say dumb things that nobody can call you out for. See: racist grandpas.

 

You guys don't get it. Two years back the average players in any given time was around 300, now it's 70-80. Next year it will be maybe 50 or less, then one morning you will see 0 players online and then you'll remember my words. But it will be too late. You think that games never die ? Well they do. And a few dedicated players from forums can't save it, ask soldat players for that.

 

I don't get how this game is dying. The community is really nice and almost always people to play with. I have bought games who had almost none players playing it. THAT'S dead, not this. This game is so addictive that players can't let it down. The problem I think is is that this game is not beginner friendly. The most people jump right into multiplayer and start jab spamming. For example I bought this game for a friend once but he found it way too difficult. I am happy that they are starting a KAG training campaign of some sort. That will probably help some people out. But yea if you just come onto the server there's mostly one experienced knight who will probably kill you 7 times in a row when you're new.

EDIT: If you guys make it more new player friendly (in multiplayer) take my advice and start spamming sales. There are many players looking for cheap games and will buy KAG.
For example. I think this peak:

Spoiler

Was from a sale.

 

daed gaem

give up already devs, this game is a dead end that wont achieve anything not even a golden joystick wtf ur studio goin to nowhere, gaming is dead

also fucking lol@how Geti says "yeah there has been a very slow decline in playerbase so what?" and the response from OP is "YOU GUYS DONT SEE IT, LESS PLAYERS HAVE BEEN PLAYING THAN 2 YEARS AGO" like cmon dude you know better than that

 

Yea so what's your point? Nothing keeps that momentum forever. How old are you? Is this the first game you've had die on you?

 

I think he's just mad because his servers won't get players no more if it will be really dead.

Spoiler

it won't go dead though.