General Knight Changes

If a builder sits back while the team push, he has plenty of time to build a two or three thick wall with defences before his team gets whipped out. Them they've gained land because knights can't get over easily. No use bomb jumping into 2-3 enemy knights.

Plus, a good builder can take on a knight head on using spike drops, he just need 3 wood backwalls and some timing.

 

A two/three thick wall with defenses doesn't mean much. A knight can bomb jump over it when the other guys are dead, or land on the top of it. Knights can bomb jump really, really high if they know how.

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That tower isn't stopping anything. A knight or two can hop over that no problem.

 

Seriously, do you even play this game? Knights can get over that wall no problem. Two knights one will just boost and come over and kill that worker.

You can't build roofs on massive towers without tons of headache and a long long time, and then you run the risk of it all coming down on your team and your stuff, not to mention the roof gives the knight something to easily walk across to get to the rest of your base. This is why people generally build traps and holes etc. on the other side of their walls, unless you have a dedicated builder making a huge grid block/door base for you.

 

well, in my opionion the knight is still op! i like to play all classes and a tower which was shown is easy to jump over for almost everyone who know´s how to play as knight! archer is not really op in any case, it is so that the archer has high agility and it´s sure that a trained player can kill 1 maybe 2 knights, but i only seeing it very rare and it is not easy, because to charge to shotgun shot takes much longer as the charging of the knights charge attack.

 

pfft

When I player archer, I dominate a team of knights, steal their flag and win the game.

 

Assuming they have bombs.

Are you actually asking that builders should be able to build a fully functioning base tower (that can't be bomb-jumped over or destroyed quickly) in a matter of seconds?

All they have to do is stop some of the knights for like 30 secs until they get reinforcements. Even if they get over, if you can push back before they get a builder in, you can make it stronger until less and less knights get through and you have more map control. Teamwork is a wonderful thing.

EDIT: @Auburn Sorry if this seems too similar your post, I wrote this a bit ago then forgot to post it.

 

Real teamplay is rare in KAG ... there are a very rare ammount of Teamplayer.

 

No, I'm not suggesting that, and it's not even true. First, the builder would have to have the mats, and second the builder would have enough space between him and the knight to get that building beyond the knights jump/scale/float height before the knight jumps over and kills him. This is also assuming that this is a pure 1v1 and there's nobody on either team anywhere near this area. That situation is probably never going to happen. Knights will catch the builder and kill him easily before he can get a wall up that's tall enough, and that wall he so quickly builds will not have backing or doors, so it will limit his team getting over it immediately until he manages to rig something up for them. This is all still assuming he has mats--

By the time he fixes this building up it's not hard to think that an archer or a builder or a knight with a bomb or two knights can get to this wall and do something about it. Walls are quite easily taken down in games and take a while to get up.

By you asking me "Are you seriously suggesting a builder should be able to build a fully functioning base tower in a matter of seconds?" what you're actually asking is "Are you seriously saying that builders should have some method what so ever to counter a knight or rushing force of the other team out in center map?" The amount of time it takes for a knight to jump and scale a wall is less than the amount of time it takes for a builder to get a wall up that's too high to scale, and it's dependent on whether or not he has the mats, and it's going to get in his teams way if he does it, and this supposes the knight doesn't have a bomb or a team mate, and it supposes there's not an archer on the opposing team who just hops over and kills him, and it's supposing a builder doesn't come over and hack it down, and it's supposing it's not made of wood and the knight doesn't hack it down.....

Teamwork is a wonderful thing, and it works both ways. Builders throw up tiny buildings like this ALL THE TIME and they get taken down ALL THE TIME. The only towers that ever survive a long time are base towers that were build before the match began, or a huge team work tower in center map when you have a team with a consistent push to keep the other team back. Mid little towers like the one above go down all the time and quite easily.

 

Actually, the tower in the centre of the map will start out as a small tower. The majority of builders do not build towers ALL THE TIME, they just hang back and do nothing. It's not that the mechanics are bad, it's just that a lot of players don't know how to use them.

If your towers get knocked down it's due to your bad coordination, it's not the games fault. As you can see, the majority of players have no problem with it.

I am not assuming 1v1 (how can building something count as 1v1?). If you are honestly trying to build a tower when a knight is close by and no one is assisting you, that's why you are dying. That's also why I suggested building at a position behind your teammates as they have the advantage. When the enemy comes over, you will have a big enough tower to hold them for a while until you get some help in. Even if you die, you are still holding players off and increasing your team's map dominance. If you are that worried about K/D, go play Call of Duty.

Also, I notice you have made no suggestions as to how this could be fixed or what specifically causes the problem.