General Knight Changes

The problem with saying 'something is wrong' right off the bat is that if your post is wrong, it makes you look arrogant and ignorant.

You are wrong, unfortunately. Piercing a shield and breaking it are two different things. Piercing a shield ignores the shield and does direct damage. Point blank shots are poor compensation for piercing arrows because a knights melee is easier to spam and easier to aim. Sword jabs also have no charge. Sure a good archer can win, but the mediocre knight will win more.

As for a shield stun. Who cares. I'll just raise it or move before you get another shot at me. Shield stuns are fine for support but not for those who want to kill.

EDIT: Also I can see when an archer is about to power shot me, and if im at his wall and he's grappled into some corner high up in the wall, there's no way that dropping down with a power shot will hit me. I can run the other way, Jump up on the wall, making hitting me point blank a knightmare (wakka).

They were OP so the devs ditched the whole idea? It's called nerfing. Delay the shot intervals, decrease the range, limit ammo. There are a million different ways to balance this.

That's a shame.

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Thank you

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50 hours or so.

 

Plz come back with suggestions after a few hundred more.

 

I missed the long range sniper from classic, and it worked decently in beta. That was until people started saying "I can't CQC archer please buff need knight."

Someone should test a server where legolas is removed, and classic archers are reinstated.

 

Anything can be countered but the point im trying to make is that it's easy to get to the enemies wall unless there is another knight in my way. This can be countered on my end by just having more knights.

Yes, it still is valid because the kamikaze has no shield and cannot defend himself without the other warriors being on the front line. This supports the point I was trying to make about keg-lighters needing meat shields. The amount of arrows it took legolas to try and take down the kamikaze is irrelevant to my point. This may be why you couldn't see the connection.

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a 100 more what? 100 more suggestions? How does that work if i can't come here to make those 100 suggestions in the first place. Your logic has holes.

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I agree with letting my knight take hits from arrows. If I kill the archer, he'll probably drop a heart. Problem solved :D

Maybe the KAG team should aim to make the three classes have a sort of Rock, Paper, Scissors relationship. Of course some roles need to be support, but this method of countering would encourage people to change classes more often.

 

At close range, legolas shot pierces shield for two hearts.

EDIT: and also...
please, please, please, stop using real world logic when balancing kag.

Kag is not a realistic game. Agreed, knights should be defenseless puppies while holding a keg. It supports teamwork, and gives kegging a much needed nerf.

your argument:
the keg is strapped to your back based on where it is located on the sprite, so why shouldn't you be able to shield?

By your logic, knights should be able to do anything a real armored human could do. Such as run with his shield facing upwards. Or set off their own mines. Blow up their own factories.
but knight can't do these things. Because of balance issues, or anti-greifing mechanics. In kag, balance comes way before realism.

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@Beef, If you approach a good archer with that attitude, you will be cut down before you get close.

 

play 250h more and then come back

 

To counter one knight with a keg, the enemy would send a knight. I was saying that this can be countered if the keg holder simply brings more of his knight buddies. So the person who masses the most knights will win the keg push.

Before you respond to this, I would like to point out that you are nitpicking a point that is irrelevant to my larger point. Even if you were correct about this statement, it would still hold no weight against my larger point.

I'll spell this out for you. The points i was trying to make with the LOTR reference.
1) The kamikaze is not a warrior.
2) The kamikaze has no shield to defend itself.
3) The kamikaze lights the keg, not the warriors. (supporting the point that warriors cannot light kegs)
4) The kamikaze requires escorts.

Points that have no relevance to any of these four points:
1) Two arrows couldn't kill the kamikaze
2) Legolas was shooting the arrows.
3) The kamikaze didn't carry the keg over.

Because shielding with a keg is overpowered.

Thanks for the clarification. He quotes a handful of my comments including one where i was responding to someone saying they don't care about my other points. Specific[/quote]

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I see that you are the Elder Troll of this thread. The one who tries to discredit people without addressing any of their points.

Go away, then stay there. 250+ hours won't save you.

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So real world logic should not be used to balance kag even if it makes sense to the balance of the entire game?

Kag is not a realistic game. Agreed, knights should be defenseless puppies while holding a keg. It supports teamwork, and gives kegging a much needed nerf.

This is not my argument . Please reread the posts.

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I see that you are the Elder Troll of this thread. The one who tries to discredit people without addressing any of their points.

Go away, then stay there. 250+ hours won't save you.

This is not my argument . Please reread the posts.

 

fyi no one reported you, I warned you because, as I said in the PM, you're not able to use the edit button and rather multipost somewhat excessively, which is spam. Feel free to read the rules (there's even a link the warning).

 

In that case don't be too shocked when you face Nighthawk and he keeps knocking you back. Guy's one hell of an asshole archer.

 

+1

Skill would of course trump this system, but it is a better solution than Paper, Scissors, Super Rock.

 

Biased: unfairly prejudiced for or against someone or something.
Just thought you should know this....




Haha jkjk. I think I agree with you

 

This was in classic once. It became War Of He Who Stab Spams First.

 

Too true O_o

 

You should really edit your post.....