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Devlog KAG KAG Build 1796 - Fixes to Round out The Week.

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Geti, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. 8x

    8x Elimination Et Choix Traduisant la Realité Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin
    1. The Young Blood Collective - [YB]

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    Sorry I haven't seen this before, Bunnie_TDM1 is way too noisy with the non dynamic lighting. I modified it a bit to be easier to the eye.

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  2. Jprime

    Jprime Shipwright

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    So uhm. There should be a TDM at night. I'd like to spectate that hell :rollseyes:
     
  3. bru-jaz

    bru-jaz Bison Rider

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    Hahaha You should've seen the mines some updates ago when the deploy time was something like 3 seconds!
    There've been many discussions about the mines in that update. But you should keep in mind that Geti himself stated he doenst want an offensive use for the mine. He want them to work more like a trap or something you put next to enemy doors to stop their advance.
    If you use the mines dropping them in the middle of a close combat battle, you are using them "wrong". Although maaany times that could work (and it's really funny when it does) maybe what are you really trying to say is that you want the insta-kill mines to come back -as with the old boulders i.e-.
    That's not gonna happen.
    And what's the point of that? Wich use would you give to it?
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 22, 2016, Original Post Date: Mar 22, 2016 ---
    Changing the subject.
    Is there any reason why the surrender option in official servers is bugged/disabled? (At least for me and many players ive asked it says "Cant start the vote before match starts")
     
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  4. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    Re: mines - considering the time has been shrunk a lot recently and they can deploy in any situation where they can stay still (other than when held/attached to something) I think they're fine. You can set them up on enemy doors to require a builder to "clear" them without the building taking damage, and putting them down in combat works fine as long as you aren't literally in the middle of fighting someone. The deploy time is only a second and a half.

    Was actually about to do this myself, saved me the trouble thanks.

    A lot of the new maps are awful imo :/ Definitely need a clean-up soon. Would love to see an active map-making community; we're happy to add them and replace some of the more stalemate-y camp-heavy maps, but people have been asking for variety for a while so I'm not really keen to just nuke em.
     
  5. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    This was indeed a bug, fixed next build. Looks like it was tested by someone with a seclev enabled to skip vote waits.
     
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  6. bru-jaz

    bru-jaz Bison Rider

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    Another thing to the list: Align the :up: emote at 12 o'clock, instead of the :thumbs_up:. It's a nonsense. All the directions are aligned correctly, why that doesn't? Maaany times i wanted to quickly say "Above!!!" and instead i was saying "everything it's ok" .--

    Some odd bug (?)
    When playing around with the emote menu in the moment a new match ends and the new one starts, this happened to me:
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    Quitting the server didnt fix the problem. Actually, even in the main title the screen kept that way. Probably it was just a one time thing.
    --edit: (i didn't tried to sound demanding)--
     
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  7. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Bison Rider Tester

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    Happens quite a lot in TDM when you are spamming emotes at the end of the match. Kinda annoying.
     
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  8. Lava

    Lava Former Lag King Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    That used to happen to me...
     
  9. bru-jaz

    bru-jaz Bison Rider

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    Oh, then it isnt that odd. But i must admit it didn't happened to me again, even when ive tried a few times to induce it.--

    Another thing for a future update:
    Remember that dark age when teamate builders destroyed every mine you held and how that got fixed -hopefully-?
    Could you do the same with blocks being held such as doors or ladders? I mean, what is the point of placing an already broken door (but paying full price for it) only because you were near a teamate mining some stone, i.e? It was a planned thing?
    Could that be removed? Thanks in advance.
     
  10. 8x

    8x Elimination Et Choix Traduisant la Realité Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin
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    I don't know about other's opinion but I've got this problem with mines: everytime I drop one at a crucial spot or it pops out and activates itself after I died, somebody of my team comes and grabs it. I would like the mines to be not grabbable by team mates when deployed; it's really annoying :/
     
  11. I see where you are coming from but I think the way it is works with the team dynamic KAG is based on. Mines are a defensive team item, that is the risk you take when you buy one and I think you can do just as much damage with a well placed bomb arrow instead as an alternative.
     
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  12. Lava

    Lava Former Lag King Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    or if they take it and place it then someone steps on the original owner gets the kill(s)
     
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  13. bru-jaz

    bru-jaz Bison Rider

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    When that happens i just warn the player doing that to buy his own stuff and to stop grabing my shit. If the guy keeps stealing my stuff and there's an admin, i ask his intervention. If there is not, I just vote him. Sometimes the guy apologizes before that point, sometimes he doesn't and he get kicked, and sometimes i get the payback for the vote and I get kicked ...
    Just think that the same thing could happen with ballista, droped weapons as bomb arrows, etc. The deal is how many jerks are on your team. Fortunately, it doenst happen quite often to me.
    Also i don't quite agree that the post-mortem mine grabing is an issue. If you droped your mine because you get killed... for me it's ok for a teamate to utilize the mine. But the thing changes when you placed the mine and then you get killed.
     
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  14. Skinney

    Skinney THD Team THD Team Forum Moderator Tester

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    There isn't a good solution to bad decisions your teammates make unfortunately, and in this case I think it's best to just keep item pickup as consistent as possible.

    That's how it's currently scripted to work.
     
  15. Lava

    Lava Former Lag King Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    But it doesn't work though...
     
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  16. ShnitzelKiller

    ShnitzelKiller Bison Rider

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    while we're on the topic of emotes, please replace some of the completely cryptic ones (like the campfire) or the redundant ones (two crying emotes) with the essentials from classic. I want to be able to say 'Yes' or 'No' with a checkmark and an X (thumbs up and thumbs down has too many interpretations), and the gold emote would be as useful as ever in my opinion, since ballista + bomb bolt tech is literally required to win.

    Also, as said above, mines change ownership the moment a teammate picks them up.
     
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  17. bru-jaz

    bru-jaz Bison Rider

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    YES! i said that like two years ago! and nobody listened. Indeed, there're many emotes that are practically the same thing : :>:(: :rektlord: / :rekt:::):::D: / :QQ:::(:
    But i would replace the :build: instead of the :camping: , because the campfire could mean to burn something.
     
  18. 8x

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  19. super_gaming_geek

    super_gaming_geek Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni Tester

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    Yeah... It's happened to me many times.
     
  20. ShnitzelKiller

    ShnitzelKiller Bison Rider

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    So yea, this is all the error reporter does. It also stays open after you exit KAG, so that steam doesn't let you start it again without finding it in the taskbar and manually exiting. Very annoying and completely useless.

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