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Kag Mafia II - A Fool's Venture: Town Victory

Discussion in 'Spamcan' started by Tiruin, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. vote Superblackcat

    if we have a cop, he should claim now. i am not a cop. its either Sir_Walter, Apronymous or no one
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    forgot the colouring

    vote Superblackcat
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    ive checked hypos again
    day 2:
    UnnamedPlayer - Apronymous
    Sir_Walter - Hella
    norill - UnnamedPlayer
    ej - UnnamedPlayer
    Superblackcat - norill
    Apronymous - ej

    Stevedog - Sir_Walter
    vampire - ...
    Hella - ej


    day 3:
    UnnamedPlayer - Vampire
    norill - Stevedog
    Sir_Walter - Superblackcat
    Stevedog - UnnamedPlayer
    definately not cops based on earlier hypos:
    Superblackcat - UnnamedPlayer
    Vampire - Stevedog
    Apronymous - ...
    Hella - ...
    ej - ...

    so there are 4 potential cops left based on hypos, and 3 of them said they are not cops. only remaining potenial cop is Sir_Walter
     
  2. this is going to be hard without a cop
     
  3. well we are far from autowin. we only have 3 lynches, and ive already reserved one for Vampire and one for Superblackcat. if they both turn out inno then we are screwed
     
  4. wtf why me? maybe your working with unnamed to kill us.
     
  5. Sir_Walter

    Sir_Walter Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni Tester

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    Ok, so I wasn't gonna claim today (no jailer) but here goes...
    I am the cop. I checked Hella n1, SBC n2 and Stevedog n3. All were town. So far we think Unnamed, Norill and Apron are town. I'm town and I know Stevedog and SBC are town, so that leaves... Vampire! gg, unless we are getting played by Unnamed or Norill.
     
  6. fuck yeah, gg

    unvote
    vote vampire
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    also, shorten
     
  7. so you think that unnamed, norill and apro are town? and im mafia?? LOOL
     
  8. Superblackcat

    Superblackcat baideist baide Staff Alumni Tester

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    Wait, my questions is why people think Unnamed is town.
    Kill Vampire, Block Norill, and have Sir Walter check Norill. If anyone dies, we kill Unnamed k?
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    Vampire, DIE YOU LOWLY SCUM!
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    I lied, Block Apro, the only way both people missed is if they were inactive.
    Check Norill.

    We decide, out of these three, who to kill.
     
  9. jailer is dead skrub
     
  10. Hella

    Hella The Nightmare of Hair Global Moderator Donator Tester

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    After careful examination of the possessions of the person formerly known as 'Hella', several items were discovered:
    • 12 tubes of industrial strength glue
    • a collection of novelty moustache combs shaped like the Goonies, excluding Sloth, because he creeped Hella the fuck out when he first saw the film
    • a half eaten snickers bar
    • the following note:
    Untitledplayer.png
    • also, a second note, saying that everything written here is completely irrelevant, so don't actually make any judgement using it, you silly paranoid folk you. (unless it involves the murder of ol' poopy chops)
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2014
  11. Sir_Walter

    Sir_Walter Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni Tester

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    Uh, so it's Unnamed? Well, we have a ton of lynches- let's go with Vamp today and Unnamed tomorrow?
     
  12. im pretty sure he tried to tell us that he jailed Unnamed last night, hence proving his innocence
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    at a glance
    --- Double Post Merged, May 2, 2014, Original Post Date: May 2, 2014 ---
    this is my stance
     
  13. ...You know, I'm VERY disappointed at [that first thing back there]

    You want me to talk about how disappointed I am? IRC wailing.

    Someone did not read the rules.

    @Unnamed, I am unsure who else would've been online to see that but...it would be fairly unfair to include you in the list of people I am disappointed in,given how I can't know how deep this has gotten; 'you didn't try to stop it?' would be the query on my mind.

    Though, in that case of admission via third-party methods, I'd literally put my doubt on the conciseness of the whole claim's correctness. :chicken:

    For posterity? The setup isn't mainly town-sided moreso that even one scum can win the game based on gameplay rather than power roles. It has been talked about for a long time on our forum regarding how powerful one faction is.
    And I'll have you people note, that before you accuse anything like this setup or the game--try to review yourselves and your mistakes, beforehand.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2014
  14. UnnamedPlayer

    UnnamedPlayer Arsenist Administrator Global Moderator Tester
    1. MOLEing Over Large Estates - [MOLE]

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    @Tiruin: I did not start the serious mafia talk, nor it had any impact in how the game went so far.
    After all votes had been placed in Ej, he mentioned that he was maf and raged about the incompetence of his partner.
    The only reason I shared it here was because I thought it would be bad to withhold information, no matter how irrelevant it was. Like you mentioned, Ej could be lying.

    Setup is town-sided because it can be abused w/ cop hypo. It may be even and fair w/ default strategy, but cop hypo breaks it pretty badly.
    You can argue that scumhunting is more important than statistics, but it doesn't change the fact that town have a severe advantage when using optimal play.

    @norill: I know for sure that me, apronymous and you are all town. I can safely assume that Sir_Walter is cop (if he isn't, we'll get him later). Sir Walter clears Stevedog.
    Which leaves us w/ SBC and Vampire. We have 3 lynches. We will use them in this order
    1 - Vampire
    2 - SBC
    3 - Sir_Walter (since he cleared Stevedog and everyone else is inno)

    Auto-win. The only way to lose is if norill is maf, and I'm willing to bet the game on the fact that he isn't. I'm also assume that you're all willing to believe I'm town.

    vote Vampire
    --- Double Post Merged, May 2, 2014, Original Post Date: May 2, 2014 ---
    We have a saying in mafia. Why me = Fry me
     
  15. Superblackcat

    Superblackcat baideist baide Staff Alumni Tester

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    I'm missing something, where's the part that Apronymous and Norill is clear?

    And why do I get lynched before Sir_Walter, considering he cleared me. Your game is off Unnamed, It's almost as bad as mine.
     
  16. UnnamedPlayer

    UnnamedPlayer Arsenist Administrator Global Moderator Tester
    1. MOLEing Over Large Estates - [MOLE]

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    Oh shit, my bad. I'm [insert a synonymous to retarded here]
    I blame it on sleep. Anyway we lynch vampire today. Norill isn't clear, I just think he inno. Apronymous is pretty much clear if you look closely.

    We lynch Vamp today. If he is inno, we figure shit out tomorrow.
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    Also, jailer is dead and if Vamp is inno, cop will die tonight.
    If he does, then you guys can just lynch me and norill.

    It's autowin anyway.
     
  17. Superblackcat

    Superblackcat baideist baide Staff Alumni Tester

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    (Where's the part that you are clear unnamed? :P, ARE YOU MAFIA BADDIE?)
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    MFW, didn't realize Hella died....

    I say
    1) Vampire
    2) Norill
    3) UP
    4) Apro

    UP: Can you tell me why you think Apro is inno?
     
  18. UnnamedPlayer

    UnnamedPlayer Arsenist Administrator Global Moderator Tester
    1. MOLEing Over Large Estates - [MOLE]

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    @Superblackcat
    No, doesn't matter tho. I'm happy w/ that lynch order. You can even lynch me before norill.

    Won't get to that point tho. Vamp is last maf
     
  19. I am just very curious on why it happened when it is explicitly mentioned not to do such things.
    Tiny fact about Mafia we love saying in our forum: Everything is to the power of the player. :P
    All the things here that make it such-sided (in lieu of real balance), are to how the players counter each other in the various forms of logic. Sure, there's a hypothetical mark--that can be subverted by any such plan in the way.
    There just needs to be a plan in the first place, such as that there was a plan for that hypothetical situation made in the first place. ::D:

    Anyway, off with banter.


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    Vote standings:

    - Apronymous -
    - UnnamedPlayer -
    - Sir_Walter -
    - Stevedog -
    - Superblackcat -
    - norill -
    - Vampire - norill, Superblackcat, Sir_Walter, UnnamedPlayer,
    - No Lynch:

    Not Voting: Stevedog, Apronymous, Vampire, Stevedog,


    Day 4 has begun and will end at May 6, 2013 [Tuesday] 9:00 pm [GMT//UTC +8]

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