Kag Mafia II - A Fool's Venture: Town Victory

crap, nvm that then

 

yeah i thought we were playing 4 blue/doc/cop/2 mafia

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 14, 2014, Original Post Date: Apr 14, 2014 ---

still voting on walter btw, fuck him

 

I cri :(

 

Without calling, the cop can implicate or support several people per round, then change their minds on previously unknown people once they have more information. With calling the cop can only name one person per round, so efforts to befuddle the search will eat very deeply into efficiency.

Something can fail to take an unreasonable input, but still be a functional model in reasonable situations. If you can find a model that better represents the idea, I'll mail you a cookie.

Is this an arbitrary estimate?

 

NL

 

I just took a couple minutes to reread the posts from last night and I'm not sure what half the shit I wrote is myself. I shod probably be getting more than two hours sleep a night. ;n;

 

Ah I forgot, NL

 

NL all the way.

 

Forgot to NL.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 15, 2014 ---

Got it now, sorry.

 

so wut we doin
oh is see NL

 

Nine men of varying profession
Looked at the clock for its cessation
The clock struck three
On the table appeared a key

The clock struck four
The inner table became a door
The clock struck five
The scenery came alive​

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Vote standings:

- Apronymous
- Hella
- UnnamedPlayer -
- Sir_Walter - Ej,
- Stevedog
- Superblackcat -
- norill
- Vampire -
- Ej -
No Lynch: UnnamedPlayer, norill, Superblackcat, Sir_Walter, Stevedog, Apronymous, Vampire

Not Voting: Hella


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You mean:

This?
Because no-one is very different from voting for a no lynch.

 

does jailing "protect" from (role)cop? i mean, if jailer and (role)cop pick the same person, does it block them from getting knowing their allegiance/role?

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 17, 2014, Original Post Date: Apr 17, 2014 ---

i did some math and it turns out that its better for us if jailer used his power

assuming mafia is at least remotely competent we know that they will either both vote to nightkill same person, or maf rolecop will chose 1 townie for inspection and vanilla maf will choose another townie for nighkill. this means there are 392 possible night action combinations: (jailer picks 1 of 8 other players) times ((both mafias vote on 1 of 7 townies) or (maf rolecop inspects 1 of 7 townies, vanilla maf kills 1 of remaining 6 townies)) = 8 * (7 + 6*7) = 392

lets list all those combinations:

• 210 - jailer picks vanilla townie, but maf kills some another one (5 vanilla townies * (7 (kill+kill) + 6*7 (inspect+kill)))
• 42 - jailer blocks vanilla maf, saving a townie (1 vanilla maf * (6*7(inspect+kill)))
• 42 - jailer blocks rolecop maf, wasting his inspect (1 rolecop maf * (6*7(inspect+kill)))
• 14 - jailer blocks one maf, but the other had kill anyway (2 mafs * 7 (kill+kill))
• 30 - jailer saves vanilla townie, mafia inspects someone (5 vanilla townies * 1(failed kill) * 6(inspect))
• 5 - jailer saves vanilla townie, no maf inspect (5 vanilla townies * 1(failed kill+kill))
• 6 - jailer saves, but blocks cop, mafia inspects (1 cop * 6(inspect))
• 1 - jailer saves, but blocks cop, no maf inspect (1 cop * 1(failed kill+kill))
• 42 - jailer blocks cop, maf kills someone (1 cop * (6 (kill+kill) + 6*6 (inspect+kill))

as you can see there are 3 times more good outcomes than bad (126 vs 42)

 

Nup~
Jailing protects from kills-and stops the person being jailed from acting.
And in that scenario? No. It doesn't block them from getting to know the role or faction alignment.

What ability you're looking for there is something akin to a Roleblock--which I'll be talking about later, post-game.

Edit: As a neutral note: Statistics don't make cases by themselves, nor do they win games by themselves...

 

one of us is so going to die tonight UnnamedPlayer

 

In the scene of a rounded table
Nine men stood bickering with cantankerous able
Till one said Not, shall we plot
No need for today to unravel​

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Vote standings:

- Apronymous
- Hella
- UnnamedPlayer -
- Sir_Walter - Ej,
- Stevedog
- Superblackcat -
- norill
- Vampire -
- Ej -
No Lynch: UnnamedPlayer, norill, Superblackcat, Sir_Walter, Stevedog, Apronymous, Vampire, Hella

Not Voting:


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Yes.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 20, 2014, Original Post Date: Apr 18, 2014 ---

Day came up and the night doth wander
Another man arrived and announced his other
He spoke in rhyme and rhythm and tone
Why in the world should these messages be equally drone?

The man was the japer, the insider, you see
With him was his own, nobody else added to ye pairs three
He brings you together and explains your abode
Nine men gather, speaking once again in code
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Vote standings:

- Apronymous -
- Hella -
- UnnamedPlayer -
- Sir_Walter -
- Stevedog -
- Superblackcat -
- norill -
- Vampire -
- Ej -

Not Voting: Ej, UnnamedPlayer, norill, Superblackcat, Sir_Walter, Stevedog, Apronymous, Vampire, Hella


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