KAG's Dying Competitive Scene

Actually, only 83 players... for me kag need 400 active players or more, @Geti i have a offer for you after the @Fuzzle build, I think it will be the right time to do one of the things I was told you :)
with the new HUD, the new comers will be amazed by this new KAG and us also ahah

by the way, when gonna come all this things : http://www.thd.vg/post/108638762975/king-arthurs-gold-behind-the-scenes-single ?

 

fuck no

Spidey is gone

If it is a competitive tournament why would you want to force lesser clans to fight you. The only way i would be ok with forced cw is if it was ELO

 

To be fair, knight gameplay has become a lot more dull since they removed shield climbing and generally decreased manoeuvrability (smaller jump height, can't glide forever, etc). I don't think any of those traits were what I would consider unfair or a bug. Shield climbing was a nice ability to take advantage of bad building techniques; it was very simple to stop shield climbing if you make a little overhang to all of your towers. In terms of slash cancelling, it would be fine "technique" if it was edited to actually show when people stopped charging a slash (a sound maybe, like sheathing a sword). As it was, it was just a bad bug that definitely had its uses, but could become a much more advanced strategy and add depth to the game.

What has been done to KAG is comparable to Super Smash Bros. Melee -> Sm4sh. A lot of things have been dumb-downed (archer shotgun is another thing off the top of my head) to make it easier for the noob to play, but to remove depth from higher level play. I doubt many oldfag knights would say they've enjoyed the changes to their gameplay as it is, as I definitely do not enjoy them.

 

agreed, i especially didnt like the change to doors that made correct placement of them completely useless(working by being pushed in any direction dumbed it down)

 

Can you reformule please ? i don't understand what do you mean ?

Can you explain why do you not agree?
you do not want save Kag?
150 active players is enough for you?
you have maybe a better solution?

 

I purchased the game. I do not think 'free to play' will stay long or be useful

Making bad clans fight good clans does not make a competitive tournament without ELO

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it was just a change i didnt like and a feature dumbed down[(basically making it easier while not needing to place it correctly)No im not just making up reasons to complain because im bored; i just brought up 1 of the points anon didnt]

 

I also bought, for how long you play at kag? Did you ever played in the classic version?

during the classic version I bought the gold version for skins and for some gold servers, but especially for the skins!
Before the beta got out they had more players active on kag classic like 300-350

Why o_o ?

 

I bought kag beta; Everyone else should have to pay for it to(or refund me which is both childish to ask for and completely justified)

Also, because there should be a reward for fighting good clans over bad clans. That is why i would want ELO for forced clan wars

 

You are happy to be able to change your skin when you want I suppose ? And you are happy to can go to what server you want ? If this happens, you will not bought kag for nothing! :) trust me.

Ah yeah, why not finally

 

Changing a game from paid into free-to-play is an incredibly douchey thing to do in any circumstance, unless the people knew that before-hand. You are literally stealing money from people, technically a scam, since you took money for a free product.

And making it Free to Play will make the game worse.
More people will come in, more servers will be needed, there will be more noobs, hackers, trolls, griefers, shitbags, Nova clan members, and generally bad people.

Overall, the ONLY reason why people stay with KAG is that they are good, are bored, have no life, wish to become a masochist or are suicidal, or have made plenty of amazing relationships that they wish to keep. No one here can say that this game is good without fooling themselves or being a complete and utter liar.

Bring in the masses and this game will be torn to shreds, people won't be able to find each other casually while going through servers, and the frustration from utter morons on everyone's team, ruining people's good times.



Now, to get back to the Dying Competitive Scene instead of fighting amidst ourselves on what is best for the game as a whole compared to how to revive clanwars and the like.

 

Mostly, but at the same time, a lot of the people I know from KAG sorta feel the same way.
The game is fun, sure, but it's bad. So many terrible things in it, but the people are cool.
The community is absolutely amazing.
I am also exaggerating for the sake of using this as a surrogate to actually writing things.

 

Not really Tera is a game that was payant and that becomes in free to play.
The people who bought Tera have just some minor benefits!
And tera price was far from being the same as the KAG!

Gameforge had problems?
Apart from their launcher who are bad, no problems.

We have a lots of admins for that and a anti cheat-engine.

 

Wasn't Tera supposed to be f2p to begin with?
If so, they bought in early for some things and access to the game at the time, and probably some exclusive things that you can only get in Beta.

Also, minor benefits is still super shitty, unless they are actually much larger than you think they are (in Tera). In KAG, having other heads is not worth $2, nonetheless $10. And there are no Premium servers anymore. Or wood and day-night cycles to have access to if you purchase Gold status.

 

On the other hand, if P2P players can only have access to modded servers, that might be good enough. It may even incentivise buying the game for those who want to pay. Who doesn't like Shiprekt?!

 

damn son try to keep the thread focused into kag competitive scene. By the way, I'm in for whatever (I would prefer the ELO approach and not MLK shit, tho) but the devs and the important people should displace their lowest flaccidity and participate in thy postings.

 

Personally, I think it'd be best if someone else took charge of this rather than Snake. I don't dislike Snake or anything, but the language barrier is already causing problems :P.

How do you go about enforcing this rule? What if a clan plays some clans, but not all, and then half of the clans managed to get 2 points whereas the rest didn't get that opportunity. Yes, you can challenge them and force they accept, but what if a clan disbands mid-season. Then the only good thing to do is remove all the points other clans have gained from them, but that completely discourages playing.

Not only that, but with this system, you can only play each clan once every 6 months? Where is the fun in that? Where are the rematches or rivalries? Also consider there is only a few clans in your area (EU/US/AUS) so you could be done fighting every clan there in a month or two.

I still don't see why this system is better than an ELO system with forced matches.

edit: can u f2p fags go to the "kag is dying OOO NOOO" thread please?

 

As Psiklaw stated, we need to focus this thread on organizing the pro competitive scene and leave the "SAVE KAG BRING BACK INFINITE WALL CLIMB" to other threads.

We now have 2 options and I suggest now that we make a kinda poll about which to choose. Once we chose we can finally start refining it to a final and practical form.

Option 1: Make a remake of what was MLK. Season tournaments with increasing points due to matches played each season.
Option 2: Create a permanent league with ELO-type ranking with eventual tournaments happening ever once in a while.

I vote for Option 2