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More players, more lag.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by FlameHaze3, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. FlameHaze3

    FlameHaze3 Shark Slayer

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    With all the new players joining the game, the overall server ping is getting worse, every server i join now-a-days since the review KAG got, has my ping (which is always 33-100) "ping flinging" where you can see it change very instantly back and forth. I see it at 33 flinging to 266, and then back again, this is on every server (with different server ping ofcourse) but i am unable to find a server which doesnt lag so bad anymore.

    There has always been mild lag, where you randomly revert to a different location that you hadn't been to, but now i see players randomly appearing out of nowhere somtimes, or i swing through them, i see it hit them twice, and die, but then it reverts backwards and shows me dying as the actuality.

    This only started a little after all the new players joined, and im just wondering if the master server will be getting updated, or if the client itself can't handle so much info going through?
     
  2. Melan

    Melan Shark Slayer

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    My ping sometimes fluxes, or as you call it, ping fling, but I too have been getting it more often now.
    I'm starting to think what you're thinking also.
     
  3. Agent_008

    Agent_008 Bison Rider

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    I keep dieing when I'm about 6 blocks ahead of someone and suddenly teleport back.
    Other times I'm chasing a ghost and then the real one appears behind me and I die.
     
  4. Vanguarde

    Vanguarde 'Most Hated' 2013

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    I am also noticing TONS more lag. This is unfortunate side effect of the game becoming more popular. The only solution is to write smoother net code and upgrade the servers.

    I just hope it does not get much worse.
     
  5. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    The net code is perfect

    anyways, the reason for the lag is that:

    The code is currently optimized for only up to 32 players. Servers larger than that will usually have lag and need significantly higher performance for each player. The engine itself can only run up to 48 players, any more than that and the server crashes (which is why you don't see 64 player servers anymore)

    Also, the problem probably isn't the new players, it's probably that quick recent network fix seems to have caused additional lag. Most notably it causes drops in framerate.
     
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  6. Melan

    Melan Shark Slayer

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    Yeah, the other thing that happened to me recently is that I had random fps spikes/freezes. I got all of this lag on a 20 player server though o.o
     
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  7. Jaedong

    Jaedong Shopkeep Stealer

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    It might be your computer/internet connetion. I don't have those problems.
     
  8. thebonesauce

    thebonesauce All life begins and ends with Nu Staff Alumni
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    I don't either. I very, very rarely have frame rate drops or ping spikes. Even more rarely, I get disconnected from a server all together.
     
  9. Melan

    Melan Shark Slayer

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    Probably is, but my point is that its been happening more frequently lately.
     
  10. AJ

    AJ Emperor of Mankind Donator

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    Alot of lag lately.Ive noticed more than there used to be.
     
  11. Vanguarde

    Vanguarde 'Most Hated' 2013

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    I think it is a tad overzealous to call something perfect as it implies that no improvements are needed - ever. The game is only alpha and we will see lots of improvements in the future I am sure if the developers do not move onto something else.

    Whatever you want to call it, the latest network fix is far from perfect as I am getting the same unfortunate experiences in terms of lag and framerate drops.

    I look forward to the day the engine can handle 64 players rock solid, that would be as close to perfection as one can get!

    :migrant:
     
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  12. Noburu

    Noburu Dirty, DRUNK, Hillbilly Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    You fail at detecting internet sarcasm.

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Inexorable

    Inexorable The おっぱい lovin' nipple wizard. Donator

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    Listen mate I live in NZ, we have like 1 giant cable that goes round every one of the 217 houses in our country and probably have lower quality internet than Botswana.

    I aint got no lag, perfect connection 99.999% of the time.

    Nothing wrong with master server or client.

    Not sure what the problem is.
     
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  14. Vanguarde

    Vanguarde 'Most Hated' 2013

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    It is very difficult to judge communication of humans via text alone, as the subtle cues of the facial muscles, the tone of the voice, and the physical situation are not present.
     
  15. knightl

    knightl Base Burner

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    the helpful way is if you think its so stupid it must be sarcasm, hell everything Noburu says could be sarcasm under that definition :)
     
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  16. Vanguarde

    Vanguarde 'Most Hated' 2013

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    I guess but I tend to take everything quite serious and take people for their face value.
     
  17. AnRK

    AnRK Shark Slayer

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    Might wanna re-evaluate that approach when you visit these forums then ;) Whole lotta Aussies = a shit ton of sarcasm.
     
  18. Hoj

    Hoj Builder Stabber

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    The more packets of information the server has to process increases the lag. Depending upon the server size and how many people affects the lag. Just becasue you have decent internet doesn't mean you don't effect the ping of the server. Also try to figure of the server location before you join. The longer the distance between you and the server means it takes more time to process information.
     
  19. zninja

    zninja Shopkeep Stealer

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    How is it that ping is always exactly 33, 66, 133, 266, 333 etc.. ?
    There must be something wrong with how the game computes ping.:huh?:
     
  20. Wonkyth

    Wonkyth More precious than carbuncles! Donator Tester

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    Not an issue, really, as all it needs to do is give you a ballpark figure.
    Also, I think you'll find many games have that exact same issue. :P