Nerf or remove spike dropping.

Why is this such a big arguement? I think that it's very frustrating that you can't counter as a knight and it can also cause teamkills, however, I think that a skilled builder should be rewarded for being able to pull off a quick maneuver like that. I'm think the best comprimise would be to have the shield deflect spikes. I have seen kittycity kill me multiple times and it's because he's gotten good at spike dropping. I think it's a little too strong since it can go through an informative amount t of players tho.

 

If you're dying to a builder 8/10 times as a knight, you should probably quit KAG.

 

It's kittycity that kills me all the time cuz I think he sped most of his time trolling

 

I agree that builders should be able to kill opponents through the use of skill. However, instakill from 1 placement is not that solution.

What you have just pointed out is the biggest problem with spike dropping. WHY THE HELL IS A KNIGHT UNABLE TO APPROACH A BUILDER JUST BECAUSE THERE IS SOME BACKWALL. Sure you can juke him or stay back, but this creates the silliest mechanic ever. A knight CANNOT approach a builder. A knight should be able to slaughter a builder, but now he can't even get close. Sure if you juke him enough, he'll run out of stone, but how long will that take? Probably long enough for support to arrive or for him to run away. This leads to knights being unable to kill a builder. And this is exactly the same problem with boulders as well. The close-combat class, cannot kill or approach the builder/demo class. It's just stupid.

 

Well then dont just juke him like a 5 year old! Put some skill into it. And a knight is able to approach a builder just because theres some backwall. you just have to take your chances and man / woman up.

 

Boulders have a simple maneuver but spikes are a little silly. A tool used to place on a wall is now inspiring you to run on the battlefield and waste stone. It's pretty dumb. If a builder can't move up then he has to do something else IMO because insta killing on the battlefield is not the solution


You can get good at dodging them but who is going to take the time to try and trick a builder whilst in combat with knights and taking fire from archers.

 

You keep saying that it's too effective, but also that it's wastefully expensive.
Pick a side and stick with it!!

If you get killed by anyone while distracted by another enemy that's not bullshit, it's teamwork.
The occasional team-kill aside, builders being able to help in team fights is by no means a bad thing.

Postscript: Boulder are harder to dodge than spikes (unless you have catching level ping).
You literally just slash chicken with the spike zone as your retreat point. It's simple and it doesn't get in the way of normal combat.

 

I would rather give builders +25% movement speed and jumping height +2 than instant kill attacks. Also the boulder is useable by all classes. And you can see it coming, and you can catch it as it falls, and you can see the trajectory to dodge it and you can slash-break it and it can even be broken by teammates.

Sooooo what balancing features does spike dropping have?

Edit: Imagine if the only defense to a boulder was dodging it and it instakilled you from any height or angle. I think people would hate it just as much as I hate spike drops.

 

spike drops are fine, you're just bad at the game

 

Difference between spike drops and boulders when facing Anon: you can't dodge boulders on flat land.

 

Yeah... spam S key and catch the boulder. It's not even ping based.

 

The feature to drop spikes must be removed! I remembered having like 2000 something points in a match but it got ruined because a friendly builder dropped a spike on me when I was grabbing a drink.

 

If your only argument for anti-spike is "I was afk stealing a team spot and being useless plus I care too much about score instead of actually winning a match" then maybe you deserved to be spiked.

 

what makes me laugh is that whenever i play builder people ingame expect me to do what they ask:P

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 20, 2014, Original Post Date: Sep 20, 2014 ---

then how did i do it 4 times in a row :)

 

I asked you to make a knight shop once and you did.

SO MUCH FOR FIGHTING THE POWER.