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Petition to change MLK rules involving who wins the game

Discussion in 'Competitive KAG Archive' started by Blue_Tiger, Oct 3, 2015.

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Remove ticks past mid & ticks to cap from MLK rules to allow ties?

  1. Yes

    50.0%
  2. No

    50.0%
  1. mcrifel

    mcrifel Haxor Staff Alumni Tester
    1. MIST

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    I am not complaining about the rules because FoD lost, I just don't like them

    I mean look at last season and how MIST was losing a shit ton, we didn't complain about the rules then.
     
  2. Snake19

    Snake19 RIP Staff Alumni Donator
    1. [AG#] - Ancient Gear

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    i know, I put a bit everyone in the same bag, I know very well that you're not a bad loser Inferno. But I know that the most who complained about the rules has recently lost a clan war, and mad about that.
     
  3. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Bison Rider Tester

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    ^

    If I were in FIST! and winning every game, I'd still say the rules are utter shit.

    Maybe because we are underdogs and these rules completely favour stronger teams.

    As the main person saying the ticks were complete BS, I was never informed of the poll till someone said "well, the poll is closed and says we're going with ticks".

    Also, I'll point out that a lot of the people voting against for this petition just want the league to go on a natural course till the season is over. That's fair enough, I just posted when I was told to post, but I definitely want a rule change for next season. Pretty sure very few players actually like ticks BS.
     
  4. Colargolator

    Colargolator Horde Gibber
    1. KAG Competitive League

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    The arrogant has to prepare to be alone.
     
  5. Snake19

    Snake19 RIP Staff Alumni Donator
    1. [AG#] - Ancient Gear

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    BS ? i said that i was not a fan of ticks but not that i hate them.

    It's not my fault i send the poll in the conversation and a link to this conversation on my profil page for about one or two weeks

    it's not offensive but the reality
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2015
  6. Colargolator

    Colargolator Horde Gibber
    1. KAG Competitive League

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    It's used in a context where it can be only offensive, as a depreciation means.
     
  7. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle Grand Grumbler

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    Code:
    Username:           Clan:   MLK:    Days:   Lost:   Matches:
    jadle1:             ?       ?       3       ?       ?
    BarsukEughen555:    -       -       0       -       -
    PUNK123:            -       -       1       -       -
    Sytoplasma:         -       -       60      -       -
    TheFlare:           MaJoR   -       0       -       -
    blackjoker77777:    YB      +       25      -       1
    Vamist:             FIST!   +       3       1       0
    Stevedog:           SP      +       13      1       0
    Obione5256:         SURGE   +       1       1       3
    Mazey:              nEVER   +       0       1       1
    CraftminerCZ:       maskG   +       ?       1       ?
    Teodor1:            maskG   +       ?       1       1
    Xaimani:            maskG   +       0       1       1
    Snipezz:            maskG   +       0       1       1
    Ranmage:            FoD:~   +       0       1       ?
    Redshadow6:         FoD:~   +       0       1       ?
    JaytleBee:          FoD:~   +       12      1       ?
    daskew87:           FoD:~   +       0       1       1
    mcrifel:            FoD:~   +       0       1       1
    Jansef:             FoD:~   +       0       1       1
    Blue_Tiger:         FoD:~   +       2       1       1
    A_Jax:              AG#     +       59      0       0
    I'm quite impressed. Pattern? Nope.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2015
  8. Mazey

    Mazey Haxor Global Moderator Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Official Server Admin

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    Wanted to stay out of this but if you start naming me.. OK.

    I have no idea what you even mean by "days", and what do losses have to do with this? The game I played in was a 2-0 for FIST, it had nothing to do with tickets, but whatever. Continue being Fuzzle, Fuzzle. You're saying frickin' shiz' again

    The reason I voted yes is because of this drama from the ABC vs MaskG match the last week. The ticks mod is incomplete at this moment, it doesn't tell you which team won and having to note numbers or go through logs is shit. Improve the mod/add a competitive bot which tells you when matches are official and which team won etc. That doesn't mean I think you should change the rule right now, never change a rule while running a league.
    Also, ties work in ELO, so I don't see a huge benefit from ticks, just because ABC captured the flag 5min faster than MaskG shouldn't mean they get a full ELO loss.


    Quick tutorial on how to make a league/tournament:
    -Create a ruleset
    -Play the league/tournament with that ruleset (so don't suddenly change the ruleset now, this should all be thought over next season)
    -???
    -have fun

    tl;dr play this season with these rules but consider improving the mod and rethink the ruleset after this season

    edit: also if you don't like the ruleset you shouldn't play but make your own small tourney or play clanwars not for any league but just for fun like most clanwars since classic
     
  9. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle Grand Grumbler

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    Excellent example, pal. It's obvious that you don't understand shizz'.
    Should I explain once more?
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2015
  10. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Bison Rider Tester

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    I was talking about myself as the main person against ticks.

    And it is your fault. I don't check your profile and wasn't in the private conversation.
     
  11. Mazey

    Mazey Haxor Global Moderator Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Official Server Admin

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    Please do, pal!
     
  12. blackjoker77777

    blackjoker77777 Haxor Tester
    1. Zen Laboratories

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    I bet he meant to say "the last time we were seen in-game".
    but the real question here (which I honestly think brought everyone's attention ) is:
    "why Wins aren't included?"
    I think that whole thing was made to convince people that we didn't like the rules because we lost? not sure but that's how it seems to be.
    I do not like the current rules (that's my honest opinion and I'm free to like/dislike), BUT I agree with Mazey and as he had just mentioned I'm against changing rules mid-tournament since that's going to delay it, cause lots of issues and mostly cause it to die at the current state.
     
  13. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Bison Rider Tester

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    wtf are days? And also, because we are in losing clans, our votes should count less? Elitism at it's finest.
     
  14. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle Grand Grumbler

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    I never implied that your votes count less.
    I'm simply impressed.
     
  15. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Bison Rider Tester

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    Holy shit, stop being so toxic.
     
  16. mcrifel

    mcrifel Haxor Staff Alumni Tester
    1. MIST

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    wtf do you even mean with this shit
     
  17. Mazey

    Mazey Haxor Global Moderator Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Official Server Admin

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    All I said is that I think you should play with the rules you started with, but improve the bot. Rule changes should wait until next season, but please Fuzzle, explain your opinion once more, as I can't find it anywhere.
     
  18. Blue_Tiger

    Blue_Tiger Bison Rider Tester

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    his opinion is to play TTH
     
  19. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle Grand Grumbler

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    Fair. The reason they decided to do 2 matches instead of 3 was 'cause of the intercontinental matches between US and EU that caused a ton of brawls, as it was impossible to choose a server for the final match. The teams would always win at their local server. Ties were removed as a draw is inevitable with 2 matches. It's far more attractive to do intercontinental matches now. The system ensures that every match is fair and square, and I find the hate undeserved. Kudos to @makmoud98. It's well-documented system / ruleset.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2015
  20. Galen

    Galen Haxor Staff Alumni Donator

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    Geez, this thread. I fail to understand why you people get so worked up over rules in a competitive thing, why is it so hard to just talk to each other like normal people, like, without trying to verbally bash their heads in?

    In other words: stop your flaming and abusive behaviour instantly.