Pls remove Cerbero's rift

I'd be lying if i said i didnt have fun on the map in the past, but that doesnt make a good map. Even the worst pubbies can just walk to the front, build a tower, and camp it for a cancerous game. Controll is literally given to you and there isnt a viable way to stop it(except slowly eroding their shit with a cata or some form of explosives). Unless you were to tunnel which i find the worst part of the map anyway

 

Looks good!

 

I think it'd be cool to see remnants of a bridge in the middle, that you could use to parkour over to the other side and make building a bridge faster. It also encourages quick building and utilization of the environment :D

Also I think encouraging tunneling diagonally would be cool. I don't think I've ever seen a map that has done that and I know for a fact that nobody within their right mind would setup a diagonal tunnel, as it's very difficult to defend and hard to travel around.

 

Well yea it isnt a mechanic it is a map, and there are a ton of them for kag. Why wouldnt someone who dislikes a specific map want it removed? When talking to people i found some who strongly disliked it and some who really liked it. Maybe I'm alone in the opinion that a giant barrier(the pit) is the actual unfun part, because of

Which is exactly what ive been whining about

This probably would ruin the map, but i remember how bc made his pitmap playable on his flatmaps, he added dirt backwall. A line of it across his pit to make it so one side couldnt just "break both ends and gg more stale"

 

Yes, just yes.

 

Also after playing another crap game on the map today i found that the rat hole isnt really that bad. Granted, i hate that it is automatically given to the enemies, so what if you just made a path for the team to go thru the rathole adding more depth and a different way to play(still have to play arround the shitpit for all you sadistic weirdos).
something like

Spoiler: this

just makes more sense to me

 

also, why was
fellere's Four Rivers added to the mapcycle again...?

 

because it is best!

 

i always liked this map and the 4 rivers one

 

4 rivers is alittle big but other than that it is aight. General kag pub rule: water makes everything much worse. As for the pit map i havent been playing kag much so i havent had to deal with it but i stand by my statement that the gimmick gets old quick. Personally id like smaller leaner maps for official. The only (relatively)small ones in the pool is the dragon map and that one tunnel one right? Granted the dragon one is literally just a troll at mid. Not only is there platforms and sharks under them when you gain controll of mid, but if you get past that there are mines. It's like wtf all that useless bedrock and you have to make mid shit. Gimmicks are bad;end of story.

 

You call 1 hour bad, look at my map pack its got maps that lasted till the server crashed 48 hours later, but they were actually fun

 

a month or so i joined a server that had one team building this massive base on one part of the map. it literally stretched from the beginning to like slightly over the middle over the map. The server had to restart eventually because of lag. But that shit looked dope!

Also for fun maps for everyone I think you just need to respect certain rules like; Having a common ground, no preexisting tunnels to make the life of rats even easier, and multiple flags, to name a few. If you dont respect every class in every map, youre gonna piss off a few other groups. And as much as geti wants you to enjoy every class in its own right, that doesnt mean that every aspect of each class can be enjoyable to everyone. so you cant really force people to like a certain class that doesnt fit their play style and their perception of fun, so its useless to punish players for it.

 

Water is a pit in my book. I dont think we'll ever see eye to eye on the pit map but for 4 rivers i think it really does work when you have more than 5 players per team. Atleast on that map you have different avenues you can take that the enemy team has to defend and nothing is just handed to you.

 

Yeah, in this map it catered to both, it was a 1028 block wide map or some shit like that and it was 80% void it was just a massive mid with nothing but dirt backwall

 

Spoiler: Next target

Bad flag location, Terrible flag access for team, Terrible mid, Gimmicky, ect.

 

Spoiler: >:D

That mid of the map is so fucking awkward it's ridiculous.