Problems with water combat

As a support class, they should not be able to advance across a channel by themselves without some kind of escort. I think removing their ability to fire when in water is perfectly legitimate. I'm sure this won't seem so harsh when boats come around, anyway.

 

It wouldn't hurt if the m2 dealt damage, though. It wouldn't even have to be anything major.

 

I think it's too soon to tweak water mechanics. Boats and other siege engines will have a huge impact.

 

I'm tired of seeing this in the forums. This is opinion presented as a fact. The "About" page and the wiki present all three classes as distinct from one another. They each come with pros and cons. Furthermore, they can all support one another.

From the About Page:
Three customizable classes
The Builder, The Knight, The Archer

Examples of Individual Use from Wiki:
Knight: The primary skill of the Knight is to attack with his sword.
Archer: The Archer is a skilled warrior in ranged combat, using a bow to rain death from afar.
Builder: The Builder is the backbone of any army.


Examples of Support from Wiki:
Knight: Being a melee warrior, the Knight is proficient in the use of a shield to protect himself and others from harm.
Builder: His primary task is to build the infrastructure necessary to protect and provide mobility to the army.
All 3 in reference to CTF:Generally the builder builds defenses around the tent and helps others to destroy or surpass enemy defenses. The knight is the front line soldier, preventing the enemy from breaching the knight's team defenses, while pressing onward towards the flag. The archer supports the knight by forcing the enemy to shield with arrows.

I'll leave this here, and make a new thread for it if anyone wishes to comment. SchnitzelKiller, I only reference you because you're the latest to say this. I mean no offense, this is just something beginning to permeate the KAG community that I feel needs to be addressed.

 

Problems with water combat

1) Water Combat

 

just how much breath do archers get? Is their ridiculous lung capacity supposed to compensate for their low health or something?

 

Is Bomb's Surf is Deleted ?

 

Bomb surfing or skimming is hard to do if the player is on the blue team, and can be done easily on the red side. Another reason to do something about the current water combat imo.

 

Knight slashes easily outdistance quick arrows underwater. What are people angry about. I haven't beaten a knight underwater unless he was at one heart or less and I got the drop on him, seeing as he can kill me with one motorboat 7 foot distance slash. While my arrows travel 5 inches then sink like stones.

And any team that lets an enemy archer swim all the way across is either incompetent, or already on the ropes.

 

My main problem with water combat is that attacking via water is so worthless atm you end up with games where both sides stalemate over water and its 11v11 archer duels in skyscrapers. Bluigi hits it right on the head here, but I also agree with frog that:

Hold out a little longer guys.

 

Boats are looking pretty slow at the moment, I'm sure it's not finalised and maybe they'll take a fair bit of punishment but we'll see eh?

 

My problems with current water fighting.

-Knight's slash allows him to reach ridiculously far targets.
-To properly cross water you need some sort of an "oxygen refilling point" in the middle which is usually made with ladders.Its extremely easy to snipe builders when they try to build it - and its pretty much like tunels - they dont give advantage to red or blu,but instead just provide an opportunity to storm each other.
-It seems that archer cant do anything when underwater.
-Arrows do not skip ,but bombs do?!Unfair!I want to use mah mad reflecting skills!