Progress, setbacks, boats and ropes.

Notches could be just made inefficient, and other ways of getting over things buffed. See ladders, their range was buffed and now they actually get used again. Not being able to notch out of a hole is scary indeed (maybe it could be just slow?), and I am afraid that a lot of the challenge with the manouvres will be lost. Please at least keep vaulting :(

All the other stuff is way awesome though, I can't wait to see the test build patch ^W^

 

I like monsteri's idea of slower climbing, but if notching was to be taken out, I guess that would reinforce the need for more frontline builders with them using to always be placing trap doors and ladders everywhere.

It would also change the way buildings are built and how people play. No more scaling the sides of an abyss starting from a block missing, only a fall.

RTDM would also become limited along with jump maps.

Also, some of these boar ideas sound drastic, some eight man eighty foot boat with the works. I think to he'll with that, let me build my own boats, then I could customize places to put things; if chests could ever hold equipment or mats,- box boat with a shop in the middle. I don't know if an idea like this could be coded, some type if algorithm would have to take place.
X=amount of blocks touching th water
X needs to be atleast one third of the amount of blocks above the waterline, that would give the ability to make boats with cool designs and what not.
I'm nit a coder so that may not be am idea ever plausible, probaly to late now, maybe some coders might attempt?

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It's also part of kag's identity for me, I'd love it to disappear for an in depth war mode, but I hope it's gonna be server side so you can still have arcadey fuck abouts with all the stupid jumping about we already have, would be a shame to see it go entirely. Would imagine that's the plan though, and they'll make it a server side option.

 

Don't take out notching guys! I like teamdoor ladders! Makes it hard for enemies to get up.... don't take em out! T ^T

 

No! Keep notching! You will ruin all the parkour maps! Why doesn't anyone think of the parkour maps!

 

woohoo, its a floating piecawood. fy call the beavers. they fucked up their dam.

 

I love the idea of taking out notching, it's something that should have been done a long time ago- in fact was done but was reverted because too much kneejerk reaction to change. The kind of towers that currently rule KAG are stupid as hell, think about it. We're making super thin, super tall towers with the bottom half of doors embedded in them, and we can somehow use this as a ladder. What the hell?

To make this change truly effective I think we'll need additional deterrents to vertical building, though. Old habits will be hard to break and even more importantly, vertical building will still be effective. Drawbridge ladders will definitely need to go, and maybe vertical building limits of some sort? Buildings topple over if not sufficiently wide?

 

I thought that could be done using the builder_blocks.cfg file (the "require h/v" columns) but that does nothing... is that a bug or am I misunderstanding their purpose?

 

If I understood correctly, notching is the thing where you climb walls with the help of the 1 block holes in the wall. I can't be my usual one man knight army, if it gets taken out. :( Then I'd always need the help of builders. Well then the enemy shall fear the threat from above. *lights a bomb*. ;)

 

Yes, I agree, but the problem is that knights would become somewhat immobile, and they'd have trouble getting every smallest pit out. Well, since this is for full version only.. Let it come. Let's see how it affects the game.

To take drawbridge ladders out, they could just collide with us like they used to. Without notching you wouldn't be able to use them as notching team-only ladders either.

 

After re-reading when less hungover then previous, it seems that notching should remain in game if server owners want to use it from what I can gather from this bit of post. No notching for your more slow paced, long haul war modes with all the teching up involved, but notching in f2p and when server owners want to use it, seems from the last bit of the post that they should have a fair few physics variables to fuck about with which'll make for some interesting servers.

 

You don't have to remove notching entirely. Just make teamdoors unable to open unless a player is able to fit in all the way, and teamdoor ladders will cease to function. But the movement is currently perfect, IMO, and is what makes KAG unique. Notching in particular.

 

At the risk of being an idiot, I don't understand exactly what war mode is.

 

If it makes you feel any better, neither do I. I think it's where you all start out builders, and you can't change classes at the tent, only the outpost. Which you need gold ore for.

 

So, it's a bit like zombie modes class/workshop system, but team deathmatch objectives? Will it include water/wood?

 

Yeeeup, that's the gist of it. Only I think it's more like ctf than tdm.

 

What is a "blob" block?