ReBalance mod discussion

Oh, okay.

Seems like it might be good? Dunno. Would need to test. I kinda like the idea of needing to swap between shieldbash and lighting bombs--definitely would raise the skill required to pull off the old Classic standby of lighting a bomb and then using shieldbash to keep people off your back while you cook said bomb--but making it easy-to-use for pubs (who might find having two clearly different functions tied to the same key too complex) could be a challenge.

 

Glorious. Simply masterful.

 

This thread got a lot of responses this last day, very awesome.

6) Bomb Satchel.
Stats: 0.5 hearts of health, damage similar to the old bomb arrows. 5 seconds to explode.
Reason: A more offensive version of the bomb arrow, it is more counter-able, and could be the counter-buff to the bomb arrows that we're looking for, and ultimately it would balance the count of special items between the two classes. The archer shop sells 4 items but 1 of those is the item required for regular attacks.

HNGGGGH I think this is a perfect solution for archers still being effective with 'bomb arrows' yet not being so OP in being able to do all that structure damage from a distance, which I believe is one of the bigger problems with their offensive capabilities v structures, that they can do it from a distance (and it's so effective), I believe it's also the problem with keg drops, that you can do it from a distance, so easily

I kind of agree with this to be honest, I've tried it a few times and managed to catch it out of those times 3/5, however I was really pissed one of the times when I picked up arrows instead of the lit keg, despite jumping to catch the kegs (as archer). (I'm sure this is just an issue with priority though)

 

yes we've already submitted the bugfixes to geti.

that includes the annoying can't fire after you run out of special arrows bug

 

Hoho, you found the solution to that huh? Awesome, I run into that, often

 

Yeah it should be fixed, it was syncing the out of ammo bool before checking your regular arrow count, so it would set your bow to the no_ammo state.

try to reproduce it on the test server :)

 

Would like to see fire arrows do more damage to siege (not as much as bomb arrows though), and give more coins than normal for the hits on it (hit on each burn tick was what I was thinking, but I'm not sure how that would work in the code)

 

I buffed it a lot, maybe I should tone it down more. try out the changes on the test server and leave feedback please!

I thought they could use a bit more of potential damage, I've changed it back to do 1 heart on hit, but I've added an additional heart to the damage-over-time burning.

the bomb radius has been changed to 48, read the first post, it is more up-to-date.

 

We did a lot of testing last night with knight, the bombs have a 48 pixel radius right now. Which feels good on both ends. The new bomb jumping was decently accepted aswell.

I'm much in favor of removing shield surfing as a way to move faster for knights, I don't like it as a mechanic for moving faster or stuning. Last night I was talking to Jiggy and a few others about having an intentional shield bash, not as an item you swap to select, but as an attack. i.e) if you hold right click and then hold left click you would do a shield bash jutting you forward slightly. This would stun unshielded enemies. However if the enemy was shieled it would stun both of you leaving you open for teammate attacks. This would also allow knights to stun nearby archers/builders because they don't have shields. I think this would also help to raise the skill ceiling for knight.

 

The downside is the tie. If you tie, you are likely to die to another enemy, you can't safely assume that you'll live if you tie a shield bash because some one else will end up jabbing/slashing you.

 

line 342 of archerlogic.as
change it from

Code:

else if (this.isKeyJustPressed(key_action1) ||

to

Code:

else if (this.isKeyJustReleased(key_action1) ||

and it's fixed.
(it's on the server if you want to test)

 

Yea that sounds like a good idea to have a delay after doing it where you're open.