Seclevs, Blocks and Physics Headaches

I think slopes are mainly, as i think one of the devs mentioned before, was to eliminate the need to hold down w and d(or s) to get to the battlefield.

 

Yes, but what about the Shield Sleds!

 

By the look of it, those special tiles are moving entities like crates and boulders. Even if you did make them snap to the grid in the end, would it lag the game to have a whole lot of them?

 

on-topic:
This looks awesome!Can't wait for ramps/slopes to come out!
off-topic: Ive seen getiministrator once or twice,i'm guessing thats you?

 

I also saw an MM troll, who would not go out of spectator and led me to a fake site. I saw many people who believed he was real and mostly because he could change his name. Yeah probably a server admin.

 

Yes,I was there.
I half believed he was real
and half believed he wasn't,
I mean if I was a dev,I
would say stuff like "I like pie"
to trick people into thinking i'm a fake,
because like Geti,I wouldn't want the whole
game to turn into a tech support.

 

It looks good, except for the appearance of new inventory.

Offtopic question: Riletyface and ImAwesome, how are you add these things to you signature?

(My English isn't very good. Hope you will understand :))

 

What about the Shield Sleds!

 

I mentioned something this in my first posst on the first page.

 

I don't understand how people can't think of uses for slopes, when they come out combines with the new physics re-write then I'm pretty sure we're gonna see some of the awesome builders we have showing us how many awesome traps can't be made out of them, they'll add a whole new level of ingenuity to trap building, especially along with all the new possibilities with ropes. I'd certainly deem it more useful then a farming system, unless healing becomes alot more difficult then it currently is, I don't really see any major need for it personally. If it does become more difficult to heal, then a few AI bunnies and stuff running about that you can kill and get health from won't be the most challenging thing they've coded I'm sure.

 

Is there any chance of a 2 high 1 wide slanted block that you can go down but not up (Unless you were travelling at very high speed), to be used for things like directing people into spikes or making boulder super ramps?

 

Well, I'm not too excited about this, but I guess I have been becoming the hater around these parts, sadly.

The inventory thing is kind of a drive off of the ol' "We're changing the clunky menus", because that thing is frigging huge. It's a WIP, I'll give you that, but you're not giving us many certainties as to what is a WIP and what's not. The whole game feels like it can change top to bottom at any moment.

The quote Ej mentioned about Builders being carrying tons in blocks just feels excessive - I don't feel like that sort of, man, quote-unquote realism is appropriate. Honestly.

After posting these, and not being the first time in doing so, I do apologize if my words are discouraging, I truly don't mean any harm - I'm sorry, though. I'm just a bit concerned because this is truly a game that I love (and, as such, have publicized a lot) so yeah.

 

maybe its an idea to add a nostalgia mode,
a mode in which you can play KAG the way its now,
without the big updates that will probably change the whole game.

 

Woops. Well look at all the egg on my face.

Ah, I see. Well as I said, I'm no game dev! It may seem unbalanced to me, but this is obviously due to how it is actually balanced, in order for everyone to be able to play in the first place. Lagger or no. However, in my experience the lag can have a more subtle effect rather than a more obvious one, with the person lagging not even noticing the difference, before someone points out that they are bugging about. I've had instances where I've had 33 ping, and have been the one experiencing bad blocking and unregistered hits, along with hits (stabs to be specific) that somehow travel over 5-6 blocks on a flat plain. In the end I once again have to place my trust in your judgement. Thanks for the explanation, and even responding to my slightly ignorant post at all. I watch further development with anticipation and a dopey grin on my face.

Cheers!

 

There will be classic, incase you haven't understood..

 

One thing bothers me about this: will you be able to place any kind of blocks on slopes? If you have a steep slope in front of you, how will you ladder your way up?

Rotating and flipping? Well that changes everything and demonstrates how powerful the new system will be. Carry on.

The network load reduction sounds great, but I'm not so sure about those irregular blocks being faster to build structures with as opposed to single blocks. Now, the reason I say this is because I'm not entirely sure how this precraft system will work. I'm speculating based on that screenshot of the inventory here, but it seems like you craft a bunch of blocks, go to the construction site and then drag, rotate and drop the pieces into place.

The whole motion of dragging and dropping is far slower compared to single block placement if this is the case. Just pointing that out.

Also, what about having terrain made out of large chunks to reduce network load? Especially the lower underground levels. You could have larger stone resource blocks the size of 2x2 or even 4x4 to greatly save on space, while still being convinient and not game breaking.

This actually sounds really good. One question though.
How do you place stuff out of the inventory? Do you drag and drop it or do you select it like in the old menu, then hit a key to activate it? Looking at the WIP screenshot, it remind of that tetris inventory from Deus Ex, which will open up for more flexibility, will also slow down the player if compared to the current system. Not sure how will that play out, but it feels like fast basic tactics can undermine more interesting and complex strategies that this brings. It all depends how the new system will work, so I'm just speculating here.

All in all I'm mostly convinced about these new systems and welcome them with more open arms now.