Yea that's totally what im saying. You seem to dislike when i get agitated with you but can you atleast concede that some of the things you say are disrespectful towards my opinion/argument. I call bullcrap because the entire message, in every one of my posts, had me quoting each separate part i was talking about. Maybe long-winded but not rambling. Ive already made a point about this that i guess you dont remember. Ill take a deep breathe and tell you to go look for it before you come to the conclusion that i was off-topic. I explained it and i shouldnt have to do that twice. So appeal to ridicule is perfectly fine in "non-formal" debates? I guess i could just not say fallacy and say that youre insulting a person and not the idea. Would that be better? That has zero to do with what i said and the point was made elsewhere anyway. I mean at a second glance i guess it could be an explanation that he wasnt trolling but to be honest based off of my past experience with this individual he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt. As explained countless times if people stopped trying to nitpick an issue that i already defended then i wouldnt restate the entire thing again. Even in this post you decided to say you feel the rules mean something different but didnt elaborate as to why my "buggy game mechanics" metaphor didnt fit this situation. No, not in my first post. I made it very clear and hit on all my points. The "gripping" is usually from people "misunderstanding" things that are in the thread or comment they responded to. I generally dont enjoy talking to people who wont read the whole post. They tend to come out with a rubuttal to something i already explained and it gets quite tiresome on my end. Read bullet 2 plus I dont think my posts are that hard to read and an example would be nice. It could be that im a baddie or it could be that the other person doesnt have the effort to read my entire post before a response(has happened several time and leads to the "persecuted victim" problem). Good then maybe we can both stop the snark. Do you ever do that? I cant remember a time where you have ever and youve been outspoken here much longer than i have. Addressing the issue of my tone i usually tell people that i can be annoyed just like they can. That is my response and it probably can be summed up as "you're the one with the problem m8". Hence why bullet 4 exists. I guess you can say it is my fault for clarity but that doesnt mean you're right. For instance when i was told about issues with my argument i pointed out where i addressed them(like when, for instance, you said i had not given a fix when infact i did both in this thread and months ago). Your perceptions indeed. That behavior is also representative of someone who is trying to re-explain all his points to people who arent reading/or addressing them. Atleast that is my pov. Maybe, i dont pretend to be skilled at much of anything Yes, which is why i wanted to talk about admins moderating these votes. Generally i dont find saving the game 10-15 seconds worth removing capping from ctf and i dont see that as a controversial thought. I didnt come here to demand the devs fix things because ive made my peace with what will actually get done, but i feel like if we have admins, and at this moment you guys are talking about protocol, then maybe this could be a good thing to discuss. Neither is people cherrypicking quotes of mine or sharing their opinions on the rules without telling me how my explanation was faulty. Ditto. The argument wasnt about which solution was appropriate(to be frank id be happy with any of them). Blame auburn for not turning it into a thread quicker I dont think i made that point and i just assumed it would convey. Guess that was a slight error on my part. This would be by far the best ending i must admit. Though princess geti's or else someone would call sexism.