The KAG experience is getting ruined by noobs

I figure MEDIC would work, as people who need help on a battlefield scream medic! Its oddly fitting. ;)

 

This special snowflake business is another straw man (snow man?); I get mad at having a bad team just the same as everyone else. I am not saying that we should accept disruptive players, I am merely saying that making threads just to hate on new players and telling them to alt-F4 when they ask for help is not a good move. New players aren't what's killing KAG, they're the only thing keeping it alive.

Anyways this HELP clan thing sounds like the right kind of idea. Monsteri I think you're the only person in this thread (including myself) who's thinking of solutions rather than complaining. I really hope it works out.

 

Lovely. I'm the one actually taking action and doing something about this situation, but I'm complaining. Please note that in my badmin thread, I was talking about how an alarming number of newer players were "disruptive" and not bitching about the new playerbase in general. I really want to help new players who WANT to learn, not cater to the ones who don't give a fuck.

 

Well, I am interested, but like bonesauce said, I am only interested in helping those who are willing to cooperate.

 

Well of course. Why form a helpful group if assholes refuse it? There's little point in trying to help those that don't want to help themselves.

 

Kouji summed up pretty well what I couldn't quite put into words. I will say that any time a new guy has done something good, I always try to commend them, whether in game or on the forums. Plenty of newer players understand the team aspect, such as builders buying knights bombs, knights giving builders resources, archers covering battle builders, etc. These sorts of things used to be the norm as opposed to the exception, even though back in the day there were still a fair amount of people doing their own thing because fuck everyone else I'm having fun. The fact remains, it seems that most f2p players are in it for themselves, though there are still plenty of premium morons out there. Just check Ban Appeals sometime, you'll see some idiot who paid for the game crying about his account being permabanned for speedhacking.

We're all on the same side, some of us just have trouble expressing it. T-minus 1 hour or so til I start the MEDIC group, and I'll try to pass the info along to Geti as I can see ingame tutorial guise being a big help to the devs.

 

I think that this problem is worsened by the elitist attitude that some of the 'older' players have. This makes them 1) unwilling to help, 2) shun new players and 3) start threads like these and complain about it.

 

The funny thing is that Chiplink hasn't really been around that long, or at least doesn't make himself well known amongst the community.

 

Recipe for any online game, anywhere:

1) Make Game
2) Get initial adopters (oldfegs), they enjoy game, develop strong skillset, but then get bored of it/move on/no longer can tolerate bugs
2b) Some oldfegs are assholes, some are not
3) New people come into game, suck at it just like oldfegs did when they started
3b) Some new people are assholes, some are not
4) Oldfegs complain about new people, new people complain about oldfegs, both sides overgeneralize, assume other side are all assholes
5) Profit

This has been happening since dawn of time. I'm sure even the game of Go has people like this.

 

https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/medic-kags-newest-in-game-guides.14732/

Here's the topic, I'll be starting the social group now!

Who knew this would be the post that set in motion a wave of change...

 

MUJER would be a more appropriate clan tag

also who is cliphink

 

Some people will always be too stupid to learn KAG. Once you realize this and accept that most people in this world are simply stupid breeding stock, you will enjoy life more.

 

Some people need more time to learn than others, and screem all over the game won't help it.
Share ketchup with them.

 

Wew! My post got a lot of replies and I totally forgot about it because of some real life stuff. Great to see that it sparked some discussion. I've read all the post and liked the ones I agreed with. Although I think that the subject during the discussion changed a little what I really was going for was best summarized by Alpaca:

There should be a non-skippable scripted tutorial that learns players the basics and more if they wanted. The 'more-part' should be skippable but should be easy found back in the main menu. The discussion about noobs that this thread turned into is an endless discussion but was interesting to read.

I've been playing KAG for quite some time now. Just checked it and apprently I've been playing this game since 21 october 2011. Longer then I thaught! I've never been very active on the forums or on IRC. I'd like the spend my free time playing mostly instead of chatting :D.​

 

Everyone was a noob when they started playing (even me, I know right) you just need to relax a bit and get in with it, we have all been there when a noob has just sent his whole team to doom and everyone strts to scream at them, personally to help them learn more than scream Noob in their face - help them = the more help they get = the more they learn = the less of noobs they are!
Becouse of this I have chosen to attempt to join Medic, hope I get in!

 

I think we're beating a dead topic now. There's already been several posts about how we're all noobs at first. Also, we should keep MEDIC related posts in the MEDIC thread.

 

I was just giving my opinion on it, nothing wrong with that?
If it is a "dead topic" then the thread should be locked...

 

I wasn't referring to you, just everyone in general.