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We should make a Designated Mod-Tester Team

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ShamWow-SuperRag, May 2, 2015.

  1. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    Okay.. even if I'm the only one I'll still test :P
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 6, 2015, Original Post Date: Jun 6, 2015 ---
    At 2:30 PM, even if you're not officially in the group but still want to test go on the KAG Irc channel, make sure your nick is your forum name, and /join #ShamRag626. I think thats how it works....
     
  2. Asu

    Asu THD Team THD Team Forum Moderator

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    Maybe a bit too late.
     
  3. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    Are all of you Aus? <@__@>
     
  4. Asu

    Asu THD Team THD Team Forum Moderator

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    European. We don't obviously have the time that late, eh
     
  5. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    Next time I'll def keep dif timezones in mind.
     
  6. bunnie

    bunnie Haxor Tester

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    don't worreh, i'll come! in 25 minutes, right?
     
  7. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    If ANYONE wants to test a feature, please post something on my page and I'll ask one of our contacts.

    Great meet today!
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 9, 2015, Original Post Date: Jun 6, 2015 ---
    Can someone make a mod for weather?
     
  8. bunnie

    bunnie Haxor Tester

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  9. Chrispin

    Chrispin KAG Guard Tester

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    Sorry, not my cup of tea
     
  10. PeggleFrank

    PeggleFrank Base Burner

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    I can't code, but it should be relatively easy. You'd need to change the background image (not sure if that can be done), and also add a foreground (like snow). Maybe the snow can be a part of the background, but I'm not sure if the background can be animated or not.

    I know @Aphelion did this on his server for seasons. The only problem is, he used a fadeout to smooth the transition of the seasons, which probably means we can't smoothly change seasons or weather without having some kind of transition effect. A black fadeout is completely unacceptable for a competitive game of CTF, but it can work for a roleplaying server like Aphelion's RP. That's probably why his mod is the only mod that supports changing seasons.

    I'm not sure if it's possible, but it might be acceptable to make a carbon copy of the background, add in a few rain clouds, add some rain to the foreground, and then have the textures very slowly fade in/out through blending. It'll make the rain and clouds slowly appear, which should be relatively believable. That sort of effect won't work for seasons, but you said you wanted weather, not seasons.
     
  11. Asu

    Asu THD Team THD Team Forum Moderator

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    We can't use any of Aphelion stuff because of his licenses.
    This can be done using particles and I remember @Fernegulus did do this once. Correct fergey?
     
  12. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    By weather it doesn't have to be all 4 seasons, it could just be raining sometimes, and sometimes sunny. That wouldn't violate Aph's stuff, would it?
     
  13. bunnie

    bunnie Haxor Tester

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    We can do our own weather mod, we just can't use aphelion's files.
     
  14. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    Aye, we should do that.
     
  15. PeggleFrank

    PeggleFrank Base Burner

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    Doesn't mean you can't read his source code and re-write it differently and/or improve it. As long as it's different in at least a few ways, I'm sure he won't mind.
     
  16. bunnie

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    i'm pretty sure he doesn't want anyone to even look at his files. he's one of the people that think mods should be password-protected zips, so nobody can steal them.
     
  17. Asu

    Asu THD Team THD Team Forum Moderator

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    I doubt. Anyways ferne has done this already as said, and he most likely will be ok to share it so well.
     
  18. PeggleFrank

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    Then make the code different enough that it doesn't bear any resemblance to his code. There's nothing wrong with referencing other's work for educational purposes, as long as you re-write it in your own terms.

    There's a difference between wanting privacy and wanting to go out of your way to hinder someone else. Aphelion has already stated his reasons for wanting support for (relatively) closed-source mods, and, unless I'm massively misinterpreting him, I doubt he would care if his code was used as a reference (as in, not being copy/pasted). Even if he does mind, there's absolutely no way for him to know that you tried to learn something from his code, which means that the only way you could offend him is if you went out and publicly stated that you looked at his source code as a reference.

    You can punch somebody as long as nobody's looking and as long as nobody finds out about it. You can read a mod's code to find out how the author did something as long as nobody knows you're reading it and as long as nobody ever finds out.
     
  19. Potatobird

    Potatobird Haxor Forum Moderator Mapping Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    That, uh, is not the most convincing analogy
     
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  20. ShamWow-SuperRag

    ShamWow-SuperRag zamn Donator Tester

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    And lets remember, Aphelion's RP includes seasons. Not actual weather like raining.