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Why are there no TDM CWs?

Discussion in 'Competitive KAG' started by an_obamanation, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. mcrifel

    mcrifel Bison Rider Staff Alumni Tester
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    a good knight or good archer has just as much impact on a game as a good builder, Builders can't do anything if they don't have a proper team to back them up.
     
  2. an_obamanation

    an_obamanation The boss Donator

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    I definitely wouldn't say that the other classes influence the match as much as a builder, at least from what I'VE seen. Keep in mind I've probably played 40 maybe 50 CTF matches in 750 hours of KAG and almost every time it's been the builder blocking themselves in that wins the whole match. The only time this is not apparent is when a team only has a one block thick wall around their flag which is showing that THEIR builder was poop, resulting in the loss. I understand it's the goal of your knights and stuff to get the builder to the flag but once they're already snuggled in it's just a matter of keeping your enemy locked in their spawn so they can't just go builder and break the enemy's builder out.

    Again, it's hard for me to validly critique CTF as I've only played a small amount of it in comparison to TDM but all I see from it is either 5 minute matches or stalemates because builder rushing is the most important thing. At the end of the day it really doesn't appeal to me and it saddens me that there is no alternative thing.
     
  3. LEGO_LORD

    LEGO_LORD Arsonist

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    I agree! TTH should get more attention it's an awesome gamemode its just no one has tried to make a "trend" out of it or even start a match. Over the last few days the people in [PAU] have been playing TTH and the server was nearly full because other people have realized people actually play the gamemode and joined! Does this prove that TTH is somewhat popular? (I've always wanted a TTH CW server)
     
  4. an_obamanation

    an_obamanation The boss Donator

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    Make a thread about it like I did! =D Also, I believe the reason TTH is not a popular thing is because it goes on for WAY too long at points. Even when a team clearly has the upper hand it still takes around ten minutes (Depending on the map) as well as the lack of people playing it at any given time. GO FULL HAM ON IT! >=]
     
  5. toothgrinderx

    toothgrinderx Horde Gibber Staff Alumni Tester

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    TTH will never be an acceptable game mode for actual competitive play due to the fact that you can spam however many workshops you want of whatever kind, and idk about you but limitless water spam sounds pretty awful to me.
     
  6. Potatobird

    Potatobird Bison Rider Forum Moderator Mapping Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    The entire reason a builder is able to move forward is because their combat class teammates are winning fights. If you have more knight power but a weaker builder, you have a pretty good chance of a win. If you have weaker knight power but a great builder, it's a lot harder to win. Obviously this is a simplification, and the builder is important but it is far from the only influence. And as for having a shitty base, every member of a team contributes to that base in build time, so it's not necessarily the full-time builder's fault there.
     
  7. KArth

    KArth Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    A Sudden change of heart :D
     
  8. an_obamanation

    an_obamanation The boss Donator

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    I still dislike TTH, but I support those who are passionate about it to try and defend it and come up with an idea to make something great. =l
     
  9. KArth

    KArth Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    Beautiful, wheres the 'like' button?!?!
     
  10. l3afysamz

    l3afysamz Arsonist

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    Non-existent :rekt:
     
  11. J-man2003

    J-man2003 Arsonist

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    I wish there were TTH CWs

    TDM CWs would leave out a lot of important game mechanics; TDM IMO is just practice.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 1, 2016, Original Post Date: Mar 1, 2016 ---
    Lets be real: not everyone contributes to it

    I've been in CWs where one teammate or enemy wasn't a builder during build time.

    Of course the fact that I'm a dirty casual probably has something to do with it.